Split To Note Cal Program

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2014/06/02 10:32:52 (permalink)

Split To Note Cal Program

I'm attempting to use the Split Note To Tracks Cal program, but, its not working. Here is what I'm trying to do:
 
I've record a drum track with Session Drummer, in  Sonar, with all Note data recorded onto just one track. I want to use that particular track, as my source track, and then, split the note data to other MIDI tracks, but, I'm getting error messages. I'm thinking its because, the Session Drummer track is not a MIDI track. Is there a way to do this?
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/02 11:16:55 (permalink)
    What error messages are displayed?
    post edited by scook - 2014/06/02 23:38:47
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/02 12:44:26 (permalink)
    Its saying "can't split, or send note to requested track". I've done it before, but now I'm working with X3 and addictive drums, so I'm wondering if I'm putting in the right" channel" when it asks for it. Haha help! This has got to be something simple.
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/02 13:30:06 (permalink)
    Not a problem with the channel (or port which do not matter so leave them at default values) but the First Destination Track. Make sure to add one to the First Destination Track when running the script on an instrument track.
     
    FYI, this forum is for older pre-X series versions of SONAR. The forum above this one is for X series SONAR.
     
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/02 17:52:24 (permalink)
    What do you mean add one to the destination track? I'm confused?
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/02 17:55:58 (permalink)
    The script has prompt for "First Destination Track", if the value in the prompt is 2 change it to 3.
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/02 23:01:19 (permalink)
    I tried it again, but, still getting this error message indicating that it can't make the split. Just curious, and I know this sounds a bit wierd, but, I have my soft synth track on track 25 and I have 26 tracks. Should I create several midi tracks to be located directly below track 25 to "catch" the note data? Or, would Sonar, just create new tracks to host the data, separately?
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/02 23:17:49 (permalink)
    Don't create the target MIDI tracks in advance, just pick a higher number (say 50) as the "First Destination Track", the tracks will actually be created with the next available track number.
     
    The issue is instrument tracks. CAL sees instrument tracks as 2 tracks when SONAR counts them as 1 track. This can also mess with the Source Track prompt too but the error indicates a Destination Track problem.
     
    You could also split all the instrument tracks in the project. Then the script should not be as confusing to use because the track numbers shown in the project will be the same as the script sees. Or just pick a very high "First Destination Track".
    post edited by scook - 2014/06/02 23:21:15
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/02 23:30:43 (permalink)
    I tried it again, and everything worked, but, I couldn't hear anything play back. Its as if, I've chosen the incorrect play back channel. I would think it would have to be either channel 1, or 10, because, those are the two channels a sound signal was transmitting on. Thoughts?
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/02 23:36:23 (permalink)
    Having to make a quite a few guesses about the project. Maybe an output assignment issue. The channel should not matter but feel free to mess with it. Now that the tracks are split out, it is easy enough to quick group and change anything on the track headers. Might be a good idea to ditch instrument tracks if you plan on using CAL. CAL support was dropped before instrument tracks were introduced in SONAR.
    post edited by scook - 2014/06/02 23:37:37
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/03 09:19:51 (permalink)
    You have to make sure that the target destination track starts at a number higher than your last track. The CAL will overwrite existing tracks if you don't (and there are no other errors). After splitting, you will need to change the Midi out on the new tracks to point to AD. Also, like scook suggests, I would recommend using the synth rack rather than simple instrument tracks, if that is what you are doing.
     
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/03 10:26:08 (permalink)
    I finally was able to successfully split the notes, but, the playback is the only setback at the moment. I'm using the addictive drums 2 that came with X3. I was wondering if perhaps that may be the root cause? I'm thinking so. Thoughts?
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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/03 12:50:17 (permalink)
     
    As Steve said earlier this is the forum for Sonar 8.5 and earlier so next time use the X series forum for more action. I know it's confusing as they seem to refuse to change the title of this forum to reflect this. After all you are using Producer or Studio right? 
     
    I don;t use cal scripts any more. here's my method of splitting a drum track. 
     
    First I never use instrument tracks. Always "insert midi track" and use those. You can copy paste the one you have into a fresh midi track to make life easier. Make sure to assign the output to the drum synth now. 
     
    Now take this midi track and clone it once for each part your going to use. 
    Lets say for example 5 parts. This will also pre assign the output to your drum synth.
     
    Now re- name each of those tracks the part you will end up with
    Track 1- Kick
    Track 2-Snare
    Track 3 -Toms
    Track 4 - Hi Hat
    Track 5 - Special
     
    Now open each in turn in Piano roll and using the piano GUI on the left highlight the notes you don't want and delete them. Leaving only the note(s) you want in that track.
    Done.
     
     

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    Re: Split To Note Cal Program 2014/06/03 12:55:11 (permalink)
    Also make sure any midi track has assigned an output to a synth, otherwise there is no sound. And for drums this is normally set to channel 10. 
     
    I don't have Addictive drums but most drum sample players require loading a drum kit or there is no sound. Open the GUI for it and see if there is sound when you hit a drum. 
     

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