soens
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Re: AS IF THEY WEREN'T EXPENSIVE ENOUGH!!
2014/06/08 05:21:56
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That and I heard they also bought some sort of software DAW company for which they are in need of paying for....   To be sure, I would not be surprised to see this software's price increase as well when the next release is announced.
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soens
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Re: AS IF THEY WEREN'T EXPENSIVE ENOUGH!!
2014/06/08 05:27:39
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Rain
Indeed. But Gibson's standard US-made guitars, that is, those available at any Gibson retailer have increased quite dramatically, compared to other US made guitars, like Fender.
The standard US SG went from $1,199 to $1,699. That's over 40% more, and it isn't a matter of exclusivity or origin.
The US Fender strat went up by, roughly what, $50? That's like 5%.
My favorite acoustic guitar maker GUILD did the same thing a few years ago. The prices just keep going up while the quality maybe not so much. Sorry, but I will not pay that much for a guitar, old or new.
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Guitarhacker
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Re: AS IF THEY WEREN'T EXPENSIVE ENOUGH!!
2014/06/09 09:34:14
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Is that the Mfg's Suggested Retail or the store's discounted price?
Even in the stores, they have the price posted on the tag but you should never pay that price. Negotiate with them and if you have cash the price will come down. The Fender Modern Tele I picked up a while back had a list price on the website but I called the order line and negotiated with them suggesting that I could go to their competitors just as easily as I could buy it from them. If they wanted the sale, I told them to make me a deal and I'll buy it from you right now. I ended up with a discount and free shipping and a price that I was happy to pay for the guitar and the hard shell case.
Buying second had is often the best way to purchase.
One other thing to consider when looking at the prices of the new gear. Most of the time, the (real) prices of the new gear stays about the same as the old gear. The one thing that does change, and not for the good, is the buying power of the US dollar. As the Fed pumps more money into our economy to keep it moving, that added money is diluting the value of every dollar.....it's causing inflation of the dollar.... it takes more of them to buy something of constant value..... and so prices tend to move upward. Of course, that really doesn't help the starving cash strapped musicians one bit but ... just so you know the main reason behind the rising prices of guitars.
I bought a brand new Gibson "The Paul" back in the late 70's for $550 off the rack of a local music store. I "talked them down" a bit from the posted price, but that was still a very expensive buy at the time. Gas was just around a dollar a gallon if I recall correctly. Now, that same guitar, used in good condition is selling for $1200.... just about double, on ebay..... and gas costs me $3.60 a gallon......
Inflation.....
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Re: AS IF THEY WEREN'T EXPENSIVE ENOUGH!!
2014/06/09 09:40:07
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Hi,  What's the problem? If it ain't your ____ that goes up, it's something else! It's the economy, you know ... gotta rake it in before the throng and masses figure out they are being ripped off!
As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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Rain
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Re: AS IF THEY WEREN'T EXPENSIVE ENOUGH!!
2014/06/09 15:30:17
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Actually, this year, Gibson's web site indicates the actual in-store prices of their guitars, instead of a theoretical list price.
On the other hand, for example, Sweetwater and the others have the SG going for $1,600 but claim that the list price is $2,700.
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Re: AS IF THEY WEREN'T EXPENSIVE ENOUGH!!
2014/06/10 16:18:41
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Rain
On the other hand, for example, Sweetwater and the others have the SG going for $1,600 but claim that the list price is $2,700.
I can't stand that kind of marketing hype.
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Re: AS IF THEY WEREN'T EXPENSIVE ENOUGH!!
2014/06/12 01:41:13
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"...back in the late 70's ... Gas was just around a dollar a gallon if I recall correctly...." Regular Gas Prices (avg)1970 - $0.361971 - $0.361972 - $0.361973 - $0.39 (oil embargo - long lines at the pump)1974 - $0.531975 - $0.571976 - $0.591977 - $0.621978 - $0.631979 - $0.86...1989 - $1.12...1999 - $1.17
post edited by soens - 2014/06/12 01:43:07
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Re: AS IF THEY WEREN'T EXPENSIVE ENOUGH!!
2014/06/12 02:18:46
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soens
"...back in the late 70's ... Gas was just around a dollar a gallon if I recall correctly...."
Regular Gas Prices (avg)
1970 - $0.36
1971 - $0.36
1972 - $0.36
1973 - $0.39 (oil embargo - long lines at the pump)
1974 - $0.53
1975 - $0.57
1976 - $0.59
1977 - $0.62
1978 - $0.63
1979 - $0.86
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1989 - $1.12
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1999 - $1.17
 2014...
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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