Guitarhacker
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mmorgan
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 10:40:12
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Sadly I didn't really have much of a reaction, it just seemed like the logical progression of a long term downward trend. To be honest, I don't really pursue music to make money, I do it to make music. The idea that someone would pay to appreciate it, while nice, is not part of my equation.
That said I think there is a larger downward trend toward a progressively less aware populace that has discarded nuance in favor brand, style in favor of fashion and analysis in favor of Facebook/Twitter RSS feeds. That in the longer term is somewhat frightening to me because it goes beyond music to society as a whole.
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bapu
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 10:43:22
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Nothing we didn't already know, IMO.
They did use the word "ubiquity" though. Bubba will like that.
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 11:08:11
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StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Guitarhacker
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 13:08:51
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Yep... more of what we already know.
The amazing part is how fast it happened. Overnight it seemed that record sales went down the tube and a-la cart downloads for pennies took over driving the stake through it's barely beating heart.
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 13:44:55
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mmorgan
Sadly I didn't really have much of a reaction
Same here.
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Linear Phase
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 13:51:59
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The music industry is absolutely dead. Marketing with music, or any kind of media is alive and well. C'est la mother****ing vie... Ha, just think of all the money we no longer have to spend on instruments and software
post edited by Linear Phase - 2014/06/09 14:23:18
too many lasers...  Sonar = audio editing ninja of a music software!
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Starise
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 13:55:59
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The so called "music business" is dead or almost dead, music certainly isn't dead.
There's probably an old saying something like- "If the horse you rode in on is dead, it's time to get a new horse...or maybe a camel if that works better."
I personally think the changes have done much more good than harm if you look at it from the perspective that more art has made it into the public arena....the harm part is financial, although 10 million from an online single is nothing to sneeze at.
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dubdisciple
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 14:05:19
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☄ Helpfulby Starise 2014/06/09 14:08:26
I'm kinda in the ho-hum response category too. The music industry as we have known it deserves death. It has always always been an exploitive cesspool of greed. Proportionally very few stars have reaped benefits from actual record sales. The myth that piracy is stealing from artists is a fat lie. Piracy steals from the labels who are in the process of stealing frm artists. I know it's still theft but the face of the victim elicits less sympathy when the victim is a thief himself.
Music itself is alive and well. It's been fashionable for older people to bash the current pop trends for decades and I recall my elders bashing music we listened too when I was young, including music now considered "classic". The industry simply painted itself into a corner and is paying the price. Say what you want about cheap downloads but they have spared many the time and money wasting task of discovering the only decent song on the cd was the pop hit you are already sick of.
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 17:25:09
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They talk about the music industry as if it was oxygen. Always been here and can't live without it.
But in historical perspective, the industry has only been around for about 50 years. Music was around long before there was an industry feeding off it.
Like Mark Twain said when asked if he feared death, "I was not alive for millions of years before I was born, and it did not inconvenience me one bit."
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yorolpal
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 18:25:41
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Never fear me Droogies. Folks will come up with many new ways to monetize popular music. Subtly at first, but before you know it we'll all be shelling out just as much or more than we did in the bad old days.
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 18:42:44
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Nothing new here, it's always been a small group of artists makes the most of the money...Lady Gaga, Justin Timberlake, Miley Cyrus, Taylor Swift, and Madonna have done very well in the last couple of years. It's hardly a dead market.
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 19:13:25
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What are these numbers? Thousands of artists? Millions of artists? Or the totals of all artists who can still make a living in music? 
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 22:10:41
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☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2014/06/10 20:41:38
This is where I have a cognitive disconnect...everybody's a singer!
When did "singer" become a specialty, anyway? In other cultures, people sing as a part of everyday life. They sing in the fields, sing while washing clothes, sing to their children and sing to themselves.
It occurs to very few of them that somebody might pay them to do it. Crazy! What's next? Monetizing sex?
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craigb
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 23:06:54
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bitflipper
What's next? Monetizing sex?
I think that's been done... 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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yorolpal
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 23:33:30
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Hey sailor...new in town??
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Linear Phase
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/09 23:40:03
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craigb
bitflipper
What's next? Monetizing sex?
I think that's been done...
You think? Maybe a little? LMFAO WTF YEAH ITS BEEN DONE :-)
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/10 09:45:30
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☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2014/06/10 20:41:02
Guitarhacker
Interesting story here on the current state of malaise in this music business.....
http://elitedaily.com/music/how-one-generation-was-able-to-kill-the-music-industry/593411/
Your thoughts after reading it?
Honestly, or cynically? I'm glad to see it go. When you consider that Mike Oldfield, Gong, Tangerine Dream and many others are still trying to get some money owed them by that guy that flies those big balls, you might come to the conclusion that many folks ripped off so many people and got away with it ... because there was no accounting as to how many albums they sold ... no one knows! I always said, since 1974 that the insdustry was going to get hurt. It had blown up with all the foreign bands and imports, and all of a sudden both Led Zeppelin and The Rolling Stones got $100 million each, and the distributing conglomerates immediately dumped all the smaller bands. I have always said that top ten is not what makes you money .... it's how much you can bring up from the BOTTOM 10 that will bring you a bigger margin than what you had before. 20 years later, Metallica did the worst thing possible and added a sharp knife to their heart. They went after Napster for the money, and from that day on, everyone went to downloads, and the music industry went even further down. Today, you don't need these big corporate rip-off artists anymore. You can make it on your own, if you are smart and surround yourself with folks that help you get this done. I do not shed a tear for the "music business", because, as far as I am concerned they are the Henry 8th of the 20th century or the Richard 3rd of the 20th century ... they need to die! And some of those folks put in jail! What's more bizarre, is reading in school about the industrial revolution (D H Lawrence) and how it was hurting individuals, and we still don't give a cahoot! And let those rich fudgers get away with it. Totally bizarre! And NOW, these same folks in Europe are trying hard to lock out parts of search agents to prevent "bad stuff" from being said about them on the internet! We still don't get it ... that some rich/powerful folks, are still running the show, and we let them!
post edited by Moshkiae - 2014/06/10 09:54:38
As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/10 10:36:33
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☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2014/06/10 20:41:16
“The music business is a cruel and shallow money
trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and
pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.
There's also a negative side.”
~ Hunter S. Thompson
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Moshkiae
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Re: Death of the music industry
2014/06/10 10:46:54
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bitflipper
This is where I have a cognitive disconnect...everybody's a singer!
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Bit ... I know you are not suggesting that folks then could actually sing! Well, to be honest a few did ... !!! But Iggy? Singing? ... goodness!
As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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