AnsweredTone recognition capability (for Keyboard parts) in any Cakewalk Sonar X3 synths?

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Tone recognition capability (for Keyboard parts) in any Cakewalk Sonar X3 synths?

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Tone recognition capability in any Cakewalk Sonar X3 synths?
Line 6 company has a product (Amplifi FX100) that can recognize the guitar tone and find the appropriate match for it (in the device). I want to know if any Sonar X3 synth (Dimension Pro, Rapture or Z32A+) has that capability.
For example, if I import Van Halen's 'Jump' inside Sonar, can Dimension Pro find the appropriate match for that tone? Is there any external product you guys know of that can do it for keyboard tones?
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    Anderton
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    Re: Tone recognition capability (for Keyboard parts) in any Cakewalk Sonar X3 synths? 2014/06/11 22:06:47 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby magik570 2014/06/12 16:57:15
    Sonar can't do it, nor do I know of any virtual instruments that can.

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    Re: Tone recognition capability (for Keyboard parts) in any Cakewalk Sonar X3 synths? 2014/06/11 22:39:41 (permalink)
    Well, there's "Audio Score" from Neuratron:
     
    http://www.neuratron.com/
     
    You can input audio and it will extract notation from that source.   The results can be exported as a MIDI file to use in Sonar.
     
    I've never used it - I have a light version, but the full version is built to handle polyphonic recordings.
     
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    Re: Tone recognition capability (for Keyboard parts) in any Cakewalk Sonar X3 synths? 2014/06/11 23:41:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby magik570 2014/06/12 17:01:12
    I don't think that's what he wants - he wants a modeling synth that can analyze and model a reference sound.

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    Re: Tone recognition capability (for Keyboard parts) in any Cakewalk Sonar X3 synths? 2014/06/12 00:49:27 (permalink)
    Anderton
    I don't think that's what he wants - he wants a modeling synth that can analyze and model a reference sound.


    Ah, you're right, Craig - I thought he may have been using the phrase "tone recognition" in a colorful way to mean matching what the recording is playing.  But yes, he wants something that will help him find soft synth equivalents for tones he hears in recordings - Something we do by ear when we want to do an emulation, but he wants something that will sniff out an appropriate patch for the user.  Interesting idea.
     
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    Re: Tone recognition capability (for Keyboard parts) in any Cakewalk Sonar X3 synths? 2014/06/12 07:43:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby magik570 2014/06/12 17:00:50
    A better term would be "timbral recognition" but for some annoying reason, the guitarist community tends to use 'tone' to mean 'timbre'.
     
    Incidentally I don't think the Line 6 device actually does what the original poster believes it does. Rather than automatically try and match something it's hearing, you provide it with a song title and it searches an online presets database full of user-submitted patches. It certainly doesn't synthesise any new patches based on what it's hearing.
     
    It's an interesting approach, but works well for guitarists because emulating another guitarist's sound is not all that difficult given a multi-fx modeller like the Line 6 series, and because that's a common pastime among guitarists. I'm not sure that it's quite so easy to emulate synth sounds given that synths differ quite a lot and they are generally more complex to set up.
     
    What would be great is if VSTis had a much more comprehensive way of classifying patches. The Native Instruments ones tend to have a really good patch selection system that lets you filter them on various criteria, but for some reason the majority of synths still just like to present you with a massive list of presets and leave you to it.
     

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