Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library?

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2014/07/04 22:04:42 (permalink)

Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library?

Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library?
 
Altima_Boy did it for the Battery 3 factory library. I'm hoping there is a package for Battery 4 too.


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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/04 22:07:22 (permalink)
    Nothing in the X3 drum maps folder by default?

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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/05 00:52:37 (permalink)
    I was amazed to see there is not even a catagory for Battery on the NI users library page, that's the first place i would have looked.
     
    Google, and the only relevent hit is this thread.

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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/05 10:59:45 (permalink)
    For any kit I actually use, I customize it to assign each desired cell to its own stereo outputs anyways - never thought to look for drum maps.
     
    I just created a Word document with the note names, note numbers, and kit pieces for reference, and don't bother with drum maps.
     
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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/05 11:42:17 (permalink)
    Thanks for looking Glyn.
     
    Someone did it for Reaper: http://stash.reaper.fm/19452/Battery%204%20Drum%20maps.zip
     
    They are just text files so it is easier to write scripts to make them.
     
    It would be cool if SONAR drum maps could be prepared outside of the Drum Map Manager as a database or as a CSV type of file. If so, then all the info in the Reaper Drum Map text files could be transferred for use to SONAR automatically.
     
    Maybe that's possible?


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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/05 14:51:03 (permalink)
    It would be nice if Native Instruments put out maps for the major DAW's themselves.

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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/05 15:26:24 (permalink)
    Pro Tools doesn't use drum maps.


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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/05 17:59:49 (permalink)
    There are drum maps for Battery 3 that were done some time ago by one of the forum members. I don't know of any for Battery 4. 
     
    One of the cool things about BFD 2 and 3 is it creates a drum map for Sonar. 

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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/05 19:45:54 (permalink)
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    Altima_Boy did it for the Battery 3 factory library.



    SONAR drum maps for Battery 3 made by altima_boy_2001
     
    FOG did it for the Battery 2 factory library.
     
    SONAR drum maps for Battery 2 made by FOG
     
     
     


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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/05 21:24:57 (permalink)
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    Altima_Boy did it for the Battery 3 factory library.



    SONAR drum maps for Battery 3 made by altima_boy_2001
     
    FOG did it for the Battery 2 factory library. 
    SONAR drum maps for Battery 2 made by FOG
      



    Unfortunately the Sonar Maps are binary not, as pointed out farther above, raw text. If Cakewalk published the data structure(s) I would be happy to attempt writing a little utility to read the Reaper files in. Anyone have a feel for how Cakewalk would respond to that?
     
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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/05 22:11:53 (permalink)
    Hi Mike,
     Yes, what I was saying is that the Reaper files are just text files.
     
     The fellow that made the Reaper text files used a macro to pull the info out of the Battery kit files.
     
     I wasn't sure about the SONAR .map files. When I was posting the links to the B2 and B3 maps I looked at them and saw they were not text.
     
     Maybe someone can advocate for getting info about the file structure. 


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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/06 01:18:13 (permalink)
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    Unfortunately the Sonar Maps are binary not, as pointed out farther above, raw text. If Cakewalk published the data structure(s) I would be happy to attempt writing a little utility to read the Reaper files in. Anyone have a feel for how Cakewalk would respond to that?
     
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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/06 08:01:37 (permalink)
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    mmorgan

    Unfortunately the Sonar Maps are binary not, as pointed out farther above, raw text. If Cakewalk published the data structure(s) I would be happy to attempt writing a little utility to read the Reaper files in. Anyone have a feel for how Cakewalk would respond to that?
     
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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/06 08:21:28 (permalink)
    As you pointed out SONAR drum maps are in a binary format. They are stored using the same object oriented versionable format that we use for the SONAR project file. As such, unfortunately, it would be pretty complex to write a raw text to binary converter without having access to the libraries we use for persistence, even if I sent you the details of the drum map data structure (which itself is a bit complicated since there are two parts to it, the mapping and the routing).
    A more realistic way would be to have a text import into SONAR but even that would be non trivial.
     

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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/06 09:29:56 (permalink)
    Thank you for addressing the inquiry Noel.
     
    FWIW, I think that SONAR drum mapping is a very powerful feature and the Drum Map manager is a great tool for when you have set up a custom patch.
     
    I've seen it mentioned many times that it is unfortunate that Drum Maps are referred to as "Drum Maps" as they can be very useful for many combinations of synths or samplers. The usefulness extends far beyond just mapping for drums.
     
    I hope that Cakewalk will consider the idea of making batch processes a possibility in the future.
     
    Thanks.
     
     
     
     
    post edited by mike_mccue - 2014/07/06 10:25:36


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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/06 10:27:23 (permalink)
    Thanks Noel.
     
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    Re: Has anyone made a collection of SONAR drum maps for the Battery 4 factory library? 2014/07/06 16:09:51 (permalink)
    Indeed drum maps are a bit of a misnomer since its essentially a general routing mechanism. We hope to make improvements in this area in the future so well keep this in mind.

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