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2014/07/05 22:54:25 (permalink)

Studio monitor hiss

Hello all,
 
Can someone please help me.
 
I have a pair of Yamaha  hs8 monitors and a focusrite pro 40 interface.
 
Just to get out the way, my computer specs are more then efficient for music production.
 
Basically my question is when I turn on my interface and studio monitors I hear hiss coming from the tweeters. It doesn't matter if I turn the volume up or down on my interface, the hiss is the same level consistently. I don't know if this is normal or should my speakers be completely quiet. At points in time I think the hiss is coming from the mix but when I silence everything Its still there. I have balanced cables, and am just plugging the monitors into the monitor left and right insert. that's it. So I am curious if other people have encountered this very issue, if its even an issue? Is this how all high grade monitors are? Please help!!
 
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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/06 10:22:08 (permalink)
Is the hiss present when the computer is off?

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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/06 11:03:59 (permalink)
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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/06 12:48:36 (permalink)
Do you have the "Active Monitor Pad" option engaged? (Click on the Settings button in the MixControl application.) That'll knock your hiss down by nearly 20 dB.


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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/09 05:54:00 (permalink)
Sorry for the late response guys. this is what happends.
 
When the when my interface is on is when it gives off a hiss. When I turn the interface off is when it goes away. When The interface is on and I unplug the monitors from the interface then the hiss goes away. So, I am thinking its the interface, but what can I do to make it go away?
 
Bitflipper, there is no monitor pad that I see in my mix console for my interface, or do you mean the mix control in sonar?
 
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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/09 06:54:37 (permalink)
Are your gain levels set very high in your interface by any chance? I dont think the gain takes a linear route so the hiss will increase  more relative to how much you actually turn up the gain knob. What peak recording level are you trying to obtain in your daw?
 
Edit: Sorry... i missed the part where you said it makes no difference when you adjust volume
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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/09 08:16:17 (permalink)
Not normal. My Dynaudio's are completely silent. But, since you say the hiss goes away when the interface is off, it sounds like the monitors aren't where the problem is anyway.
 
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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/09 09:02:28 (permalink)
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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/09 09:47:54 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Vokalzz 2014/07/18 17:02:38
I had the same problem when I first got my Pro 40. I was on the verge of sending it back when somebody from Focusrite suggested the active monitor pad setting, which I had been unaware of. It's still slightly hissier than the MOTU that it replaced, but now it's at an acceptable level.



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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/18 17:09:59 (permalink)
Bitflipper you are awesome!!! That was it!!!! When I checked that monitor pad in settings the hiss went away. Its still there but like you said it is bearable now. Thank you so much!!!
 
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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/18 17:11:49 (permalink)
However now I notice that the volume goes down drastically when I hit play back. Whats up with that. Now im confused again
 
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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/19 00:44:56 (permalink)
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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/19 10:39:37 (permalink)
Yes, the volume goes down because the interface output is lowered by 20 dB. That's OK, though, you just turn up the master volume by 20 dB and now you've improved your SNR by 20 dB. That's because the hiss is constant and not dependent on the volume control's setting.


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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/21 19:30:37 (permalink)
UPDATE:
 
cactus Thank you for your replys. Yes i did exactly what you said and worked backwards. I noticed it was coming from the interface somewhere. . I followed what bitflipper said and it seemed great! However I did eventually contact focusrite and they told me to change my output to DAW TRACKING. When I did that the hiss went away. Awsome!! However I cant record under that setting so when I goto record I will have to change settings and when I mix I will have to go back to daw tracking. Thanks all for all the great advise and help!! Much appreciated!!
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Re: Studio monitor hiss 2014/07/22 09:51:15 (permalink)
Having never used the routing presets, I had to look at "DAW TRACKING" to see what it did. Turns out, all it really does is mute your inputs so that all you hear is the DAW's output. You could achieve the same result more conveniently by switching mixes via the tabs across the top. Just set up "Mix 3" with every channel set to "OFF". Then it's one click to switch between the two settings.
 
But this also suggests that some or most of your noise had been coming through one of the input channels, rather than from the interface itself as I had assumed. Have you tried muting each channel one at a time to see if the noise goes away when one of them is muted?
 
My standard setup is to have everything muted, and just enable whatever channel(s) I'm recording. Just as I'd do with a real mixer.
 
 
 


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