The Maillard Reaction
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What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
I mean... really? I just watched a DAW tutorial video with a max RMS level of -13dBFS and an average of -33dBFS. I had to put on headphones just to hear what the guru was saying while watching it on my laptop. [TIP] if you are going to make a tutorial video about audio make sure the audio sounds like it was prepared by someone who knows something about audio. Just saying. :-)
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 00:33:35
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 02:14:15
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Those who can - do. Those who can't - teach. Those who can't teach - become critics, usually 'pretending more than anything else' to actually know what they're talking about, so as to justify their condescending & often completely inaccurate comments & statements. Those who can't do any of the above - get quickly recruited & hired by governments everywhere - who are then overpaid & underworked, receive countless bonuses, benefits and other massive expense accounts and cash payouts over the years, only to end up with entirely undeserved ultra-healthy retirement packages. Pardon the partial rant - I guess I'm just sayin' too...
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 07:28:43
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I know and have known a lot of great teachers and the video I watched was pertinent and helpful with regards to something I was eager to learn about. I just couldn't hear the dialogue without headphones. I could have heard it on one of my big audio systems but only because they have lots of excess power available. Under the circumstance, I found that ironic. It seems like it should be a simple decision to turn up the levels before you upload the video.
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gswitz
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 09:41:37
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Eli Krantzberg is one of my favorite educational video makers. I feel like I could be friends with him.
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 09:53:31
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Dan Worrall could sell razor blades to the Taliban.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 10:40:46
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I really like Kenny Gioia. He doesn't waste the 5 minutes talking about his tutorial website before doing a 30 second tutorial. He just goes for it. I like that!
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 11:39:54
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mike_mccue I really like Kenny Gioia. He doesn't waste the 5 minutes talking about his tutorial website before doing a 30 second tutorial. He just goes for it. I like that!
I'm with Mike...I don't want an ad for where I'm already at please...just give me the low down...straight and to the point.
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 12:11:25
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When watching education vids about mixing etc I actually wish the music was the loudest party and the narrators voice wasn't booming out 5 times as loud
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gswitz
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 12:15:38
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I think a lot of video makers don't record the voice separately from the daw out. Consequently it is like a one take wonder. The person making the video doesn't know if he's heard well until it is over.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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sharke
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 14:05:03
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I've seen loads of audio tutorials on YouTube which had terrible sound. Not loud enough, too loud & distorted, obviously using a terrible Bluetooth mic that picks up cellphone transmissions etc etc. But it's not just the "amateur" videos. I watched a Dave Pensado video recently on the subject of a stereo mixing technique...and the audio was mono! I've also seen some Groove3 videos where the narration was either too bassy or had way too much room reverberation. But my personal gripe is mixing tutorials where the example audio is completely out of balance with the narration (usually too loud). I also hate synth tutorials where every example they use is a raw sawtooth wave and it cuts throught your ear drums like a....erm....saw.
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 16:00:27
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sharke I've seen loads of audio tutorials on YouTube which had terrible sound. Not loud enough, too loud & distorted, obviously using a terrible Bluetooth mic that picks up cellphone transmissions etc etc. But it's not just the "amateur" videos. I watched a Dave Pensado video recently on the subject of a stereo mixing technique...and the audio was mono! I've also seen some Groove3 videos where the narration was either too bassy or had way too much room reverberation. But my personal gripe is mixing tutorials where the example audio is completely out of balance with the narration (usually too loud). I also hate synth tutorials where every example they use is a raw sawtooth wave and it cuts throught your ear drums like a....erm....saw.
What I find atrocious is the "We've edited out the background noise with a noise gate set wrong where you can hear it open and close every time the narrator speaks"!!! That irks me to know end...it's "Whish" then words and Whish again as it closes...ARGHHHH...these are pro's? Scary...
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sharke
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 17:24:47
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cclarry
sharke I've seen loads of audio tutorials on YouTube which had terrible sound. Not loud enough, too loud & distorted, obviously using a terrible Bluetooth mic that picks up cellphone transmissions etc etc. But it's not just the "amateur" videos. I watched a Dave Pensado video recently on the subject of a stereo mixing technique...and the audio was mono! I've also seen some Groove3 videos where the narration was either too bassy or had way too much room reverberation. But my personal gripe is mixing tutorials where the example audio is completely out of balance with the narration (usually too loud). I also hate synth tutorials where every example they use is a raw sawtooth wave and it cuts throught your ear drums like a....erm....saw.
What I find atrocious is the "We've edited out the background noise with a noise gate set wrong where you can hear it open and close every time the narrator speaks"!!! That irks me to know end...it's "Whish" then words and Whish again as it closes...ARGHHHH...these are pro's? Scary...
That's almost as irritating as the heavily cut narratives where they've clumsily spliced out all of the natural gaps in the dialog. A lot of Groove3/Lynda tutorials guilty of this.
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 17:58:59
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I still love the ol typed in robot voice on so many.
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mixmkr
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 18:19:21
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For fear of being blasted, I *try* to make some videos and for sure, realize my shortcomings. I'd take some serious critique and please don't take this as spamming for my channel. I figure I might as well throw my hat into the ring and see what happens. I'd like to think I'm fairly 'thick skinned' and so therefore can take comments....hopefully some positive too. I also realize that some of the "tech" videos aren't that in depth and as I've progressed along with these videos, I've set up with some better lighting and now DO record the audio separate from the video. The problem much of the time is the lack of audio meters in Sony Vegas that I can relate to....so admittedly, much is done by ear. One last item...my earlier videos are more in the *direction* I wanted to go (and you'll see if you look at some of the interviews I've done), but found I get a lot more views, doing equipment and recording videos. So I've done those to try to build up a viewer base as well. The main thing is I'm having fun, and learning quite a bit. It's *hard* to have a video personality, in my opinion. Here's my Youtube channels.... so blast away. I've got my asbestos suit on! https://www.youtube.com/u...shelf_id=1&sort=dd btw...I just started doing this last winter, and although some vids don't really get any views, I've got about a total of 15,000 so far in just a couple of months, with some seeming to attract an amount of attention. According to the YouTube analytics, people generally ARE watching the more popular videos, pretty much all the way thru. So that's been a positive.
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 21:17:58
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gswitz Eli Krantzberg is one of my favorite educational video makers. I feel like I could be friends with him.
I cannot thank that man enough for the excellent EXS-24 tutorial he made. Really took my workflow to the next level.
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 22:52:30
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mike mccue
What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good? Reminds me of the time sum Juan here pointed me to a video by a mic mfg'r whose audio was total crap and I pointed it out. That sum Juan went on to defend the video with sum fuzzy logic. I cannae be arsed to find out/Strummage around/remember who it was.
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 22:56:21
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yorolpal I still love the ol typed in robot voice on so many.
That one really gets me OP....it's like "Anonymous" did the Tutorial....
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sharke
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Re: What is up with audio gurus making tutorial videos that sound like not so good?
2014/07/07 23:49:42
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yorolpal I still love the ol typed in robot voice on so many.
What about the completely silent video tutorials when they just type the narration on Notepad. Obviously I'm not referring to mixing videos lol - but I've watched a lot of "how to" tech videos that do this. I guess it's not as bad as the ones that have a horrible loud, sugary pop soundtrack though.
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