Symphony #9, 1st movement

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2014/07/07 18:00:45 (permalink)

Symphony #9, 1st movement

Just finished this yesterday.  Produced in Sonar X3e.
 
www.jerrygerber.com/symphony9.htm
 
Produced using:
Sonar
VSL orchestral Cube
Yamaha DM2000 mixing board
Ozone 5 signal processing
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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/07 18:28:32 (permalink)
    Sounds great Jerry. Real nice music.
     
    The stereo imaging seems incredibly detailed and crafted.


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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/07 19:07:51 (permalink)
    Jerry,
     
    Nice work.    You must have spent a lot of time on this, the Expressions alone must take days.   Interesting to look through the score as well.  Most of all, it sounds great.

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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/07 19:47:49 (permalink)
    This is fantastic!! Could you please provide a few details of how long it has taken you to create this and mix it down? I'd also be interested to learn what percentage of time was spent on the recording side vs the midi editing side.
    Brilliant piece of work and a brilliant piece of music.
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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/07 22:03:26 (permalink)
    goodseed
    This is fantastic!! Could you please provide a few details of how long it has taken you to create this and mix it down? I'd also be interested to learn what percentage of time was spent on the recording side vs the midi editing side.
    Brilliant piece of work and a brilliant piece of music.




    I started it in late March or early April and finished it yesterday.  I think it's done.  I'd say composition and orchestration are my primary concerns.  The ideas, planning out their textures, variations, developments and repetitions are the first concern.  While I am composing, I am also sequencing the material, inventing and editing the composition and programming all the necessary patch changes and midi controller information.  There's also techniques about creating a groove, a feel, that must be understood musically in order to program MIDI accordingly. 
     
    The vast majority of production time is spent in the staff view, the event list and the tempo view.  Making the wave file is relatively simple:  When I am satisfied with the composition and the interpretation (the MIDI sequence) I render a stereo wave file.  At this point I am mastering because all the mixing took place in the MIDI sequence and in the VSL player's virtual mixing board.  Any new dynamic changes are handled by Sonar's audio volume envelopes, and I added some signal processing to lighten up harmonics a bit and to improve the stereo spatial range.  
     
    If you're interested in my technique and process, you can read this May 2014 article:
    http://soundbytesmag.net/jerrygerberinterview/
     
    Glad you enjoyed the piece!
    Jerry
    post edited by jsg - 2014/07/08 00:06:05
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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/08 00:55:52 (permalink)
    It is awesome. Which software do you use for notation?

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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/08 00:59:28 (permalink)
    Would you consider producing a video on midi orchestration? 
     

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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/08 01:50:27 (permalink)
    musichoo
    It is awesome. Which software do you use for notation?




    Sibelius 7.
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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/08 01:52:33 (permalink)
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    Would you consider producing a video on midi orchestration? 
     




    I've considered it.  Right now I am teaching from my studio in San Francisco and teaching individual students online via Skype.  I also do workshops on MIDI Sequencing at NAMM and maybe AES conventions, may be putting one together on MIDI orchestration. 
     
    Jerry
    www.jerrygerber.com/teaching.htm
     
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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/08 02:35:35 (permalink)
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    Would you consider producing a video on midi orchestration? 
     




    I've considered it.  Right now I am teaching from my studio in San Francisco and teaching individual students online via Skype.  I also do workshops on MIDI Sequencing at NAMM and maybe AES conventions, may be putting one together on MIDI orchestration. 
     
    Jerry
    www.jerrygerber.com/teaching.htm
     


    Thanks for writing. I am a trained pianist but self taught composer. I am new to orchestration. Currently studying a couple of midi orchestration books and Thomas Goss orchestration 101 video. Perhaps I will study with you by Skype (from Malaysia) in the future. 

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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/08 13:52:53 (permalink)
    Interesting and well crafted work.

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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/09 14:51:31 (permalink)
    Very nice, Jerry.    A few times I forgot that what I was listening to wasn't real.  

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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/12 23:15:20 (permalink)
    Nice orchestration! I've always been really interested in MIDI mockups and stuff, you're clearly in that type of market? I'd love to compose something like this

     
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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/22 16:21:03 (permalink)
    Very good...i'm impressed...all the nuances....A+
     

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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/23 09:59:00 (permalink)
    Hi Jerry, 
    I thought I already replied to this.  It is really great work.  Congrats!  This stuff doesn't grow on trees!

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    Re: Symphony #9, 1st movement 2014/07/26 00:00:02 (permalink)
    Great!  What orchestral software do you use?
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