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2014/07/14 20:58:24 (permalink)

$49 Wave Plugins

$41.16 @ JRR Shop with code GROUP

MM Reverb
Waves S1
Waves Debreath

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    yorolpal
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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 11:00:13 (permalink)
    Isn't there supposed to be a "one crazy plug" thingy today???
     
     
    OOps sorry it's tomorrow.
     
    Is that the L1 thingy?
     

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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 11:07:15 (permalink)
    Waves S1 is my favorite Waves product.
     
    No kidding.


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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 11:45:22 (permalink)
    yorolpal
    Isn't there supposed to be a "one crazy plug" thingy today???
     
     
    OOps sorry it's tomorrow.
     
    Is that the L1 thingy?
     




    OP,
    Yes...tomorrow is the L1 deal...

    Mike,
    S1 is one of the BEST Stereo widening and placement tools I've used...


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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 14:27:35 (permalink)
    I vowed to cut back on my snide comments on Waves-related threads, but $49 for a Waves reverb just made me gag. For $1 more you can get a good reverb from ValhallaDSP.
     
    I have to admit that the stereo tool isn't bad. But it's hardly unique and at the moment $4 more will get you Meldaproduction's MStereoSpread. 
     
    Don't know anything about the de-breather, so I'll give them the benefit of doubt and assume it's much better than a generic gate.


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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 14:33:51 (permalink)
    i experimented with the S-1 a lot...
     
    and after all was said and done,
    it always sounded like clownphuckery to me.
     

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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 14:46:24 (permalink)
    bitflipper
    I vowed to cut back on my snide comments on Waves-related threads, but $49 for a Waves reverb just made me gag. For $1 more you can get a good reverb from ValhallaDSP.
     
    I have to admit that the stereo tool isn't bad. But it's hardly unique and at the moment $4 more will get you Meldaproduction's MStereoSpread. 
     
    Don't know anything about the de-breather, so I'll give them the benefit of doubt and assume it's much better than a generic gate.


    I must admit that, despite owning the Waves Gold bundle for ~18 months, I haven't even tried the reverbs. Not even loaded them to see what they look like. I'm too happy with ValhallaRoom and VallhallaVintageVerb to even bother trying anything else.

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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 14:53:44 (permalink)
    sharke
    I must admit that, despite owning the Waves Gold bundle for ~18 months, I haven't even tried the reverbs. Not even loaded them to see what they look like. I'm too happy with ValhallaRoom and VallhallaVintageVerb to even bother trying anything else.



    You aren't missing much.  The newer Manny verb is OK, and its built-in effects are fun, but if you have Valhalla there's not much reason to mess around with the Waves verbs. 
     
    If you have time to kill, there's an extensive impulse pack for the IR-L verb in the Gold bundle that might be fun to play with. 
     
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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 15:50:32 (permalink)
    true verb and r verb are very good.  but wait till they go on sale.

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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 15:57:30 (permalink)
    bitflipper
    I have to admit that the stereo tool isn't bad. But it's hardly unique and at the moment $4 more will get you Meldaproduction's MStereoSpread. 
     



     
    Show me a "imaging tool" that does what S1 does with just one, or maybe two adjustments and I'll put a hat on and then take it of in your honor.
     
    I'm going to go out on a limb and, once again, speculate that most folks don't appreciate what S1 Imager does, and that is why no other dsp company that I am aware of has figured out that the functionality is worth copying.
     
     
    :-)
     
    Here's a thread I started a while back: http://forum.cakewalk.com...-Imaging-m2850597.aspx


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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 16:40:35 (permalink)
    OK, I'll bite. First, explain to me what S-1 does that makes it unique. I know I can trust you not to use the word "mojo".


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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 17:19:35 (permalink)
    The best I can explain it is to emphasize consideration of their use of the term "imager".
     
    FWIW I pretty much ignore the stereo widening aspects and just think of it as a super panner that seems to effectively place the sound in an image with more apparent effect than a simple pan adjust.
     
     
     

     

     

     

     
     
    I can do similar things with surround tools and Nugens Stereoizer, but nothing seems as simple and intuitive as simply sliding the S1 "rotation" slider and hearing the effect I've always wanted to hear when I "panned" something.
     
    Drew mentioned he thought the effect must be, by measurement, minimal. I'll opine that the audible effect is unmistakable. It lets me place something just a little off center, or a lot of center with a clarity I can easily appreciate... all with one simple slider adjustment. No distractions.
     
    It's the next best thing to L-C-R... maybe better.
     
    It's been available, seemingly, for ever. :-)
     
    If I had been able to find a suitable alternative I probably wouldn't have any Waves stuff.
     
    I'm open to the idea that Melda's "rotation" knob may do something similar. Yes???
     
    I really like the simple S1 GUI. It seems intuitive, almost over simplified, I just point the cone where I want it and the sound comes from where I think I just put it.
     
    No kidding!
     
    :-)
     
     
     
    post edited by mike_mccue - 2014/07/15 17:23:31


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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 17:58:24 (permalink)
    First, NONE OF US HERE are top flight Mixers or Producers...so our opinions don't mean a hill
    of beans...while I DO greatly respect them....

    I see so many bashing THIS plugin or THAT plugin, mostly from the standpoint of having a 
    "beef" with the Company (myself not excluded ), or because they can't get it to
    work properly, etc... or trying to over-scientifically analyze what it's doing.

    YET
     
    in regards to the S-1, it is used by some of the VERY BEST Mixers and FOH Engineers in the business.
    What it does to widen or narrow, and skew, the sound field is what makes it valuable..that is all.

    IR is used by some of the BEST MIXERS in the business...
    Renn Verb is used extensively in studio's around the world...
    Manny's Reverb has a Bricasti Model...and it's less then $50 right now...
    Yes Valhalla has nice reverbs...so does 112db, Eventide, Lexicon, 
    2CAudio, Phoenix, etc...

    But you don't find very many TOP producers using Valhalla on their mixes...
    not that it's not good enough, but they use the tools that they feel works
    best for THEM.

    The ToneLux Tilt and the Maag EQ's are used extensively in Studio's the world over...
    Looking at a "CURVE" doesn't tell you the "SOUND" that comes from it....it gives you
    a "visualization" of how the filters are effecting the frequencies....nothing more...
    but that curve on a graph can NEVER show you "the sound".

    We can "over-analyze" something...rather then appreciate it's characteristics for what they are.
    Every plugin must serve some purpose to SOMEONE.  YOU don't have to like it...but someone else might
    LOVE IT and produce Grammy winning recordings with it.

    Bottom line is this...
     
    These are TOOLS.  And one wrench DOES NOT fit all...be happy with what works for YOU...
    and let other's be happy with what works for them, and stop the over-analyzing already...
    Not everyone uses Snap-On....or Mac...or Craftsman...

    MOJO is MOJO...so get on with it already....MAKE MUSIC, prove your
    "expertise", and win some Grammy's....that's all I'm saying...and I say
    it with all due respect...


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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 18:08:09 (permalink)
    I'm using Valhalla Room Reverb on a guitar track in my latest SONAR mix.
     
    I'm hoping Sean will get past the beta stage with the AAX sooner than later.


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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 20:01:19 (permalink)
    His plugs are way under priced...and we benefit.

    Great stuff for sure...


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    Re: $49 Wave Plugins 2014/07/15 20:07:17 (permalink)
    One thing that I think I haven't appreciated enough is that Waves does keep their older stuff available for the people who enjoy being able to use it.
     
    The next time I complain about an "update" making something worse I'll remember that waves just adds new stuff while keeping "old favorites" around for the folks that might miss it if it became unavailable.
     
    I never really realized how cool that actually is until just a short while ago.


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