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2014/07/20 12:05:33 (permalink)

Studio mystery...Solved (last post)

We've got an audio mystery in our VoiceOver suite. Running Sonar 8.5 on a (gasp) XP machine...because it works. No external routing has been changed...no switches accidentally flipped or knobs accidentally turned. As far as we can tell nothing has been changed at all. Only now the playback of audio exported to the desktop is about 3 to 4 db quieter than inside Sonar prior to export. For lo these many years it was the same. The Windows settings are unchanged and Sonar's settings are unchanged. Or are they? So why the sudden drop in playback?? Likely culprits we might be overlooking??
post edited by yorolpal - 2014/07/22 18:38:12

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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/20 12:13:26 (permalink)
Are you running a control surface? Just wondering. I have faderport, and every once in a while, when I open a project, the fader(on the faderport) doesn't move to the saved position in Sonar. Instead, the fader in Sonar will drop down to whatever position the faderport's fader happens to be in. Had me scratching m head for quite a while before I discovered what was causing the volume to drop. Anyway, I reinstalled the drivers and the problem stopped.
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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/20 12:20:59 (permalink)
Nope...just a little 8 channel mixer which serves as a router more or less.

https://soundcloud.com/doghouse-riley/tracks 
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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/20 12:35:51 (permalink)
All VO tracks are done with a VO template?
Export via a "preset"?
WAV or mp3?
Sumpin' changed...
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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/20 12:55:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby yorolpal 2014/07/20 13:37:11
XP is no longer supported. Mebee they dropped audio by 3db on the last patch?
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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/21 02:10:28 (permalink)
The "Cut Volume In Half" button was accidentally pushed in? 
 
Is there any way something on the desktop was doubling the track output previously?  The fact that it IS double is what makes it curious...

 
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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/21 09:56:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Karyn 2014/07/21 10:54:30
How long has it been since you cleaned and degaussed the heads?

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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/21 11:18:00 (permalink)
57Gregy
How long has it been since you cleaned and degaussed the heads?




 
An intriguing mystery. Fly me out to your place and put me up at the Radisson and I'll bet I can figure it out.
 
Or, you could just turn up the master 3dB and chalk it up to cosmic rays.


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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/21 11:50:04 (permalink)
Yup...that's what I'm doin.  Just a twist of the knob.  But I hate puzzles...until I figure em out.

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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/21 12:41:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby craigb 2014/07/21 17:27:14
 
You have a poltergoooost.
 
Forget Dave's offer, fly me over instead and I'll perform the necessary exorcisms and demon out-castings.
 
I will, of course, require an endless supply of naked virgins and altar wine to sustain me during this onerous task (I will provide my own ritual daggers and cheese-flavoured condoms).
 
 

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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/21 13:15:20 (permalink)
All we got over here is bacon flavored condoms.

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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/21 15:00:22 (permalink)
How do you know they're bacon flavoured?
 

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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/21 16:06:51 (permalink)
You can smell it as soon as you tear open the package.

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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/21 17:33:57 (permalink)
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How do you know they're bacon flavoured?
 




You have a dog hanging off your...
 
Nevermind. 

 
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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/22 18:43:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Guitarhacker 2014/07/24 07:31:34
Welp...today I had some time to really troubleshoot this and it didn't take all that long to find and fix the problem. Turns out...natch...I was wrong: something had been changed. How or by who is still a mystery. But the Windows "wave" volume slider was down. Simple as that. The mystery is I am the only one currently who uses that box and I have never, ever opened up that dialog and changed the position of that fader. And, if they are to be believed, neither has anyone else here. Go figure. In any case it's all fixed now. I figured it would just take a little sleuthing. Sorry Bit, had to cancel your room at the Embassy Suites.

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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/22 21:07:35 (permalink)
There are quite a few applications that will reset the Windows volume without any human assistance. if any programs were run on your computer that might explain this, even though no one would have any recollection of manually making the change. Communications software like Skype etc. can be instructed to do that via a setting in system sound under communication tab, but games and other applications that you would not expect to do anything often do.
 
Google: windows 7 software resets volume 
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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/22 22:11:14 (permalink)
You are probably right...but remember, this is an XP box.

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Re: Studio mystery...Your guess?? 2014/07/22 22:43:51 (permalink)
At times I find Windows sound muted w/o anyone touching it, so anything's possible.
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