DragonBlood
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So when does X4 drop?
What's the release schedule like for Cakewalk products? is it every 2 years?
I'm new and asking because I'd like to know when to upgrade and when to wait.
I'd also like to know how often you all upgrade as well.
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/20 18:12:14
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http://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3054190&p=1
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/20 19:29:23
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October or November or even later. I can be fairly sure not for a couple of months.
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/20 20:01:42
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/20 20:30:44
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Not even thinking about X4 at this point. I still need to learn more about X3.
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/20 21:32:53
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☄ Helpfulby chefmike8888 2014/07/21 18:44:20
I've just jumped aboard with X3 and still learning plenty.
Personally, I'm not in favour of 'mandated' yearly major releases. Major releases should only be released when there are major enhancements and significant testing has been done. Of course, as Cakewalk have done, there should be constant improvement / bug fixes in the form of (free) point releases.
Yearly releases perpetuate a sense of obligation to upgrade, which of course is a great revenue spinner for the product. A juggling act, I'm sure, to keep inovation moving forward but not alienate customer through constant change.
I for one will think twice about upgrading simply because an upgrade is released.
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/20 22:08:21
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☼ Best Answerby DragonBlood 2014/07/20 23:11:32
The reality of software is that it can go on forever - "just one more feature, just one more week of testing" - so companies choose targets and create milestones for what they'd like to see in place in terms of features and testing, and by what date. If they make the milestones and the betas are stable, the product gets released. If not, it gets pushed back. Also, retailers put pressure on manufacturers to have products in the pipeline by certain dates that correlate to sales activity. Christmas is an obvious one, but there are others. Pro users put pressure on wanting certain features NOW that a competitive program might have. To them, once a year is nowhere near often enough. As to upgrading, that decision is entirely up to the customer. If an upgrade contains compelling features that would be useful and justify the cost, then you upgrade. If not, then you don't. And there's not a one-to-one correlation between features and upgrade cost. For example, if you didn't use pitch correction, never comped, had no VST3 plug-ins, but did need a solid virtual drum program, then X3 was worth it because the upgrade was the same price as Addictive Drums. OTOH I think some people would have upgraded just to get Melodyne, given the entire upgrade was only $50 more than Melodyne Essential and you got the cool comping, AD, VST3, etc. As to X4's drop date, it's after X3, but before X5. I'm quite certain of that 
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/20 22:18:03
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I agree, new releases should be limited to when they're 100% ready. But I guess on the other hand Cakewalk is a business with investors to think of, and they have to keep up interest in the product and attract new users. I know it's a bit sad but I always feel obliged to upgrade because otherwise I think I'm missing out on something. That's why I kind of like how it works with smartphones - you get an upgrade every couple of years or so, which forces you to be happy with the phone you have instead of having to have the latest release (unless you want to pay $700 for a phone).
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/20 22:26:52
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Anderton
As to X4's drop date, it's after X3, but before X5. I'm quite certain of that
Tee Hee - Thanks for your angle Craig ... all good for a rounded discussion and yup some of the inclusions do justify the jump. Ever diligent, and whether Cakewalk or anyone else, I'll have one eye open for 'engineered obsolesence'. :)
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/20 22:38:08
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sharke
That's why I kind of like how it works with smartphones - you get an upgrade every couple of years or so, which forces you to be happy with the phone you have instead of having to have the latest release (unless you want to pay $700 for a phone).
Yup - that's been me with phones @sharke, a decent one every 2 or 3 years. I'm not the sort to camp outside Apple's front door on release day ... besides, I'm Android-centric.
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/20 22:39:43
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Well recently the last thread lasted over 130 posts. Guess there's plenty of milage...
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/21 02:04:20
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sharke I agree, new releases should be limited to when they're 100% ready. But I guess on the other hand Cakewalk is a business with investors to think of, and they have to keep up interest in the product and attract new users.Cakewalk has the kind of people that if Gibson mandated no new development on Sonar for a year, they'd all sneak into their basements and do it on the side anyway. They all use the program and aside from the feature requests that come from the outside, there are feature requests that originate from within Cakewalk. I think Noel & company are wired to think constantly about how to improve the program, and the result manifests itself in updates. The positive reaction to X3 has only gotten them more fired up. That said, yes, it would indeed be great to continue attracting new users. That is happening, and we'd also like to get people to switch; upgrades do get their attention. Admittedly it would be really great if everyone always had the most recent software, if only from a support standpoint. But as you can see from this forum, a lot of people are still on X1 or even 8.5 or earlier, which simply says to me those programs have what they need...and that's fine.
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/21 02:07:26
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sharke
That's why I kind of like how it works with smartphones - you get an upgrade every couple of years or so, which forces you to be happy with the phone you have instead of having to have the latest release (unless you want to pay $700 for a phone).
I wish that was the way it worked. My Android has become essentially useless because so many apps require the latest OS. Oh well, it can still make calls.
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/21 05:17:52
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☄ Helpfulby DragonBlood 2014/07/21 17:58:20
Well the reality is all the developers need to get paid, the electric bill paid, the phone bills paid..and hopefully there's a profit leftover....this is not a non-profit company, so yes they will release new versions to pay the bills, deal with it. If everybody stops buying the upgrades, the company goes broke...(example Opcode) so support the company with your dollars and buy the upgrade if you want....I buy it whether I need it or not because it's great software, does what i want it to, and i don't want the company to go broke. I love having it on my computer because it's a great set of audio tools that i can really use....when the mood strikes, i can fly thru a project in no time, because the software is right there doing what it's supposed to.
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Re: So when does X4 drop?
2014/07/21 09:58:21
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Who said there would be an X4?
Oh yeah, Noel said that in the EZDrummer2 thread.
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