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Erik_Rises
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2013/03/12 16:35:56 (permalink)

Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help

Hey Folks,
When using SD3 and I tune a kick or a snare with the "Tune" nob I get "white noise"/"frequency noise" I'm not sure why this is. Is this something that gets fixed when EQing?
 
I'm a new Sonar X2 Producer owner, I've just recently set up my DAW and am still in the learning/experimenting stage. I've been doing research, reading, and watching tutorials non-stop for the last 3 weeks. Just wanted to see if i can get some input from the forums.
 
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    tomixornot
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help 2013/03/18 08:48:44 (permalink)
    Strange, I do tuning from time to time and never experienced this before.

    Which drum presets did you use ? Send us more info, like how much you tune, etc.. and see if we can verify the problem ?

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    Re:Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help 2013/03/18 10:29:16 (permalink)
    heres a 5 minute video on drum triggering but it will walk you through every part of session drummer.
    not sure what that white noise is but you could try replacing the drum sounds instead along with tunning your kick down(if that's what your after)
    a lot of metal bands do that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjZS61Wg-XY

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    Re:Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help 2014/07/21 12:07:58 (permalink)
    I have an issue about tunning. Sometimes I feel that that sound of the tons doesn’t match with the band.
    I wonder what some information in the samples mean, such as:
    _JBSONR_F1_16.FLAC
    or
    _JBSONR_F1_112.FLAC
    a. The notes “F1” mean that the tom will produce an “F” or it refers to the key position on my keyboard?
    b. What do those numbers that goes from 16 to 112 really mean?
    Thank you in advance!
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help 2014/07/21 12:39:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Greenwood 2014/07/21 12:57:17
    Sometimes the file names can be deciphered by looking at the sfz file created for the samples. Based on the SonicReality_JBSonrKit Floor Toms.sfz:
    a. Yes
    b. They relate to the velocities which triggers the sample.
     
    JBSONR_F1_16.FLAC plays on MIDI note 41, velocity 0 through 16
    JBSONR_F1_112.FLAC plays on MIDI note 41, velocity 98 through 127
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    Greenwood
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help 2014/07/21 13:07:06 (permalink)
    I got perfectly the answer to the "b" question. However my doubt ramains the same about the "a". Is it an F or is it the same sound produced by the tom located on the F key on the keyboard?
     
     
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help 2014/07/21 13:15:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Greenwood 2014/07/22 07:31:08
    It is the note on the keyboard which triggers the sound (in the sfz file defined as note 41, F3 if MIDI note zero = C0). It has nothing to do with the pitch of the drum. IOW, JBSONR_F1_16.FLAC and JBSONR_F1_112.FLAC are the same tom played at different velocities triggered by MIDI note 41 which is an F on the keyboard.
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help 2014/07/21 13:29:31 (permalink)
    Thank you, scook!
    So, how can I find out which is that note exactly? If it's a D, an A, a C# or whatever. Tunning the drum accordingly to the song's harmony is very important to my band!
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help 2014/07/21 13:44:06 (permalink)
    Best done by ear.
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help 2014/07/21 13:55:08 (permalink)
    Oh scook! I couldn't receive worst news!
     
    I'll keep trying... There must be somewhere where I can find which those notes are . I have tried with a guitar/bass tuner but I failed.
    Our ears are telling us that the tune is not the same of the song. But we have to be sure. It cannot be "by ear". Not with all the technology available!!!
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 Tuning Help 2014/07/21 14:12:06 (permalink)
    Could use a tool like Melodyne
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