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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/26 17:08:06
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Kroneborge
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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/26 17:21:55
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ahh, I must have missed it. Anyway, I'm going to check it out.
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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/27 03:51:04
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The demo is pretty generous and the product is very very good
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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/27 10:46:28
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Yeah, I started the demo last night, so far I'm happy with it. It really makes you think about the sounds and how they are created. I will probably end up giving this a go.
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Kroneborge
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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/27 12:09:15
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Question, did you go through the whole product, how complicated do the later patches get, do they really teach you how to make complicated stuff?
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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/27 18:55:58
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☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2014/07/27 19:02:31
I'm doing the course now. It is very good. I thought the basics would bore me but it turns out I had a couple of gaps in my knowledge even about envelopes and filters. The best part of it (the whole part?) is the tests. It has you trying to copy sounds on the Syntorial synth and it rates them for accuracy. Starts off very simple but quickly gets hard as more parameters are involved. The aim is to get you listening to sounds very closely and identifying the characteristics, so that you'll become proficient at translating the sounds you hear in your head (and on records) to your synth of choice. I think it does a great job.
I don't think it gets too advanced - this is basic subtractive synthesis, but it is very thorough. I have a feeling they will add more lesson packs in the future. They've already released a free Z3TA+2 addon.
So all in all I'm very impressed so far and have been enjoying it. However, I will say this - it is overpriced. I think $75-80 would have been fairer and tues probably get a hell of a lot more sales.
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dubdisciple
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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/27 19:09:09
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I only went through demo but I'm very impressed
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Kroneborge
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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/27 20:11:27
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I'm a student right now, so I think I will probably give this a whirl once I submit my proof of id.
I agree with the tests being hard, and it really gets you thinking about what sounds like what. I can "usually" get the right sound, but it often takes a lot of trial and error. Hopefully by the time I'm done my ear will be a bit sharper. And I will immeditatly know how much pulse width modulation etc is occuring.
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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/28 01:24:00
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I'm hoping it's going to give me enough proficiency and self confidence to really master some of the synths I use all the time, like Element, Massive, Monark and the like. It doesn't cover everything that's on those synths, but I think it will give me the skills to approach my experimentation in a more intelligent, controlled manner - instead of twiddling without really understanding what's going on. It's like I've learned the basics before, but never fully made the leap from theoretical to practical. Syntorial seems like the ideal way to bridge that gap. Of course what it's never going to do is teach me how to use highly complicated and unique synths like Prism, which no matter how many times I read the manual I'll never understand until I have a degree in digital audio (and probably physics & math). Although given that I can't find one single complete tutorial for that synth except the short overview video that Native Instruments put out, it seems that I'm not alone on that score  Another very helpful course is Sound on Sound's "Synth Secrets" series of articles. It's absolutely huge and goes into the nitty gritty of synthesis (including the math & other advanced synth topics) in great detail. I got about 25 articles into the series before stopping for some reason, and I've just reminded myself that I really need to start reading those again. You can find the first part here: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may99/articles/synthsec.htm and just Google for part 2, part 3 etc....
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Kroneborge
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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/28 13:41:19
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I also did the course by Rob Papen, http://www.robpapen.com/dvd-sound-design.html I think it was decent, but it didn't go in deep enough. I'm also probably going to try http://www.dancemusicproduction.com/index.php/tutorials/technique/synthesis-1-analogue-synthesis Which I heard is pretty good. That being said what I really like about the demo so far is is makes you spend enough time, and REALLY listen to the sounds. It's too easy when just watching a DVD's to pick up some of the concepts (a filter does this) but to not really understand it enough to start to design more complex sounds. Basically it makes you practice more in a controlled fashion. Anyway, I submited my student discount paperwork, so if he gives it to me I will probably work through it.
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Re: synth tutorial software
2014/07/29 17:22:16
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sharke
So all in all I'm very impressed so far and have been enjoying it. However, I will say this - it is overpriced. I think $75-80 would have been fairer and tues probably get a hell of a lot more sales.
Hmmm, as recently as late last year, it seems to have been priced at $99. Currently it's listed at $129. I wonder if there are ever sales. I haven't been tracking this developer and have no idea what his pricing MO is. I do think the concept is quite inspired. I've downloaded the trial but haven't had a chance to install it yet.
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