_Angus_
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very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
Hi guys, I've just upgraded to X3 Producer, and I'm very happy in general about it. My lack of basic knowledge is letting me down a bit, but what I've always liked about Sonar is that it seems very intuitive to me, and usually I can make quite a bit of progress without getting fed up. So with Producer having all these extras, I'm currently stumbling a bit on Addictive Drums 2..... With Sonar's inbuilt drums I can pull a sample from the right edge and just extend it across the track, but that's not possible with Addictive, is it? I wanted to make just a basic drum track to jam with and ended up copying the sample across several times, which is fine but I wondered if there was a better way. I suppose basically it would be handy reading or watching something that told me the basics of workings with Addictive within Sonar. I've seen one video but it was more running off the feature list than a "getting started" thing. Any pointers?
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
2014/08/07 09:58:18
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
2014/08/07 11:11:59
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_Angus_ Hi guys, I've just upgraded to X3 Producer, and I'm very happy in general about it. My lack of basic knowledge is letting me down a bit, but what I've always liked about Sonar is that it seems very intuitive to me, and usually I can make quite a bit of progress without getting fed up. So with Producer having all these extras, I'm currently stumbling a bit on Addictive Drums 2..... With Sonar's inbuilt drums I can pull a sample from the right edge and just extend it across the track, but that's not possible with Addictive, is it? I wanted to make just a basic drum track to jam with and ended up copying the sample across several times, which is fine but I wondered if there was a better way. I suppose basically it would be handy reading or watching something that told me the basics of workings with Addictive within Sonar. I've seen one video but it was more running off the feature list than a "getting started" thing. Any pointers?
You seem to be saying two different things here. A sample is an audio component (wav file) that a sampler plays back. Addictive Drums uses these samples as the source for its drum sounds. You sound as if you are actually using loops and if it is triggering AD then it must be a MIDI loop. It is not a sample. A sample is audio. If it were an audio loop you have no need for AD.
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_Angus_
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
2014/08/08 07:22:29
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John
_Angus_ Hi guys, I've just upgraded to X3 Producer, and I'm very happy in general about it. My lack of basic knowledge is letting me down a bit, but what I've always liked about Sonar is that it seems very intuitive to me, and usually I can make quite a bit of progress without getting fed up. So with Producer having all these extras, I'm currently stumbling a bit on Addictive Drums 2..... With Sonar's inbuilt drums I can pull a sample from the right edge and just extend it across the track, but that's not possible with Addictive, is it? I wanted to make just a basic drum track to jam with and ended up copying the sample across several times, which is fine but I wondered if there was a better way. I suppose basically it would be handy reading or watching something that told me the basics of workings with Addictive within Sonar. I've seen one video but it was more running off the feature list than a "getting started" thing. Any pointers?
You seem to be saying two different things here. A sample is an audio component (wav file) that a sampler plays back. Addictive Drums uses these samples as the source for its drum sounds. You sound as if you are actually using loops and if it is triggering AD then it must be a MIDI loop. It is not a sample. A sample is audio. If it were an audio loop you have no need for AD.
Thanks Blusjam, I looked at the Addictive drums video, but found it to be leaning a bit more towards a promotional effort than an instructive one for my tastes. John, thanks - I'm sure I'm using the wrong terms and as I say, my depth of knowledge is fairly pitiful. I was trying to say that the drums I'd used before in X1 and X2 (Studio Instruments?) I could pick a pattern, drop it into a track and stretch out its duration as required. Based on what you're saying, I gather this is not the way Addictive Drums works. I'm really after some basic info about the approach to take with Addictive, I suppose. Sorry for my ignorance, at best I muddle through but with X3 Producer there's quite a bit of (cool) new stuff, that is a quite a lot to take in.
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
2014/08/08 09:11:36
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☄ Helpfulby _Angus_ 2014/08/08 09:30:55
They both use midi patterns to drive them. AD's patterns may not be set up as loops, so if you want to drop a 2 measure pattern in and then drag it out so that it is 16 measures long, you can turn it into a groove clip loop by right clicking on the clip and selecting groove clip looping. (I think that's where that pick is found.) You'll know that it is by the fact that corners of the clip are "beveled".
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
2014/08/08 09:37:59
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Thanks Dave - most helpful. :)
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
2014/08/08 09:50:45
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
2014/08/08 12:00:37
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I composed a response earlier in the day ... but could not post - gremlins :) I'm with @dwardzala that's it's 'groove clip looping' you're after ... so FWIW here's what I set aside til the gremlins were vanquished ... 2 keys - CTRL + L I think you are describing Groove Clips(?) - so yes, it's totally possible and not just Producer or AD2. Either: - Right Click in the clip header and choose "Groove-Clip Looping" - or CTRL+L (with the clip in focus / highlighted) As per: http://www.cakewalk.com/D...p;help=Looping.01.html and at 3:00 minutes from this X2 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZA0S7eRSWw(I suggest you watch the whole video - at least afterward) It should then be 'right edge extendable'.
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
2014/08/25 12:51:37
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Hi Angus, I'm on the exact same mission, so anything I find out there I'll come back and update. Tim
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
2014/08/25 13:57:16
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In addictive drums click on beats, this will bring up all the sample beats in addictive drums 2, you can audition them in ad2 and if you want drag them from the Addictive drums GUI onto the midi track in your x3 GUI.
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Re: very basic Addictive Drums 2 question/X3 Producer
2014/08/25 15:24:31
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I just did this last night - here are the steps: In the GUI for AD go to the BEATS tab and find a beat you like (I grabbed a simple 4/4 with open High Hat). Drag it to the midi track feeding AD (or AD's simple instrument track if you have it set up that way) and place it at the starting measure of your choice (I put mine at measure 3). Click on the clip to select it. Use CTRL-L to turn it into a groove clip loop (corners become beveled). Drag the right edge of the clip out as many measures as you wish.
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