X3 Take Lanes Mystery - Am I Doing This Correctly?

Author
SteveStrummerUK
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 31112
  • Joined: 2006/10/28 10:53:48
  • Location: Worcester, England.
  • Status: offline
2014/08/13 10:13:50 (permalink)

X3 Take Lanes Mystery - Am I Doing This Correctly?

 
Hi guys, can anyone tell me if this is expected behaviour, or if I'm missing something here.
 
When I perform Bounce To Clip(s) on a track with multiple Track Lanes, SONAR correctly creates a single clip.
 
However, I'm still left with all the empty 'redundant' Take Lanes after the bounce.
 
Is this what should happen, or, as I would have assumed, should all the empty Track Lanes automatically be deleted in the process?
 
Here's my method (referencing the animated gif below) so you can see more easily where I'm going wrong:
  1. Track expanded to show Take Lanes
  2. I select the track
  3. I right click and select Bounce To Clip(s)
  4. Empty Take Lanes are not removed from the track

 
 
Thanks in advance of any help

 Music:     The Coffee House BandVeRy MeTaL

#1

6 Replies Related Threads

    stevec
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 11546
    • Joined: 2003/11/04 15:05:54
    • Location: Parkesburg, PA
    • Status: offline
    Re: X3 Take Lanes Mystery - Am I Doing This Correctly? 2014/08/13 14:13:31 (permalink)
    I think this question had come up before and I don't think the empty lanes are supposed to be automatically deleted, though I really don't recall why.
     
    That said, it would be convenient to have the "delete empty lanes" command wired into the bounce command, at least as an option.
     

    SteveC
    https://soundcloud.com/steve-cocchi
    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=39163
     
    SONAR Platinum x64, Intel Q9300 (2.5Ghz), Asus P5N-D, Win7 x64 SP1, 8GB RAM, 1TB internal + ESATA + USB Backup HDDs, ATI Radeon HD5450 1GB RAM + dual ViewSonic VA2431wm Monitors;
    Focusrite 18i6 (ASIO);
    Komplete 9, Melodyne Studio 4, Ozone 7 Advanced, Rapture Pro, GPO5, Valhalla Plate, MJUC comp, MDynamic EQ, lots of other freebie VST plugins, synths and Kontakt libraries
     
    #2
    Anderton
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 14070
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 14:02:03
    • Status: offline
    Re: X3 Take Lanes Mystery - Am I Doing This Correctly? 2014/08/13 14:20:09 (permalink)
    stevec
    It would be convenient to have the "delete empty lanes" command wired into the bounce command, at least as an option.

     
    Until then, right-click on the Composite (parent) track and choose "Remove Empty Take Lanes."

    The first 3 books in "The Musician's Guide to Home Recording" series are available from Hal Leonard and http://www.reverb.com. Listen to my music on http://www.YouTube.com/thecraiganderton, and visit http://www.craiganderton.com. Thanks!
    #3
    SteveStrummerUK
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 31112
    • Joined: 2006/10/28 10:53:48
    • Location: Worcester, England.
    • Status: offline
    Re: X3 Take Lanes Mystery - Am I Doing This Correctly? 2014/08/13 15:19:22 (permalink)
     
    Steve, Craig - many thanks for your replies, and for the clarification.
     
    I'd already knew about Remove Empty Take Lanes, I just couldn't understand why SONAR doesn't automatically remove any empty lanes during the bounce. Try as I might, I can't think of a single good reason for leaving them there 
     
     
     
     
     

     Music:     The Coffee House BandVeRy MeTaL

    #4
    ETPayton
    Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3
    • Joined: 2014/07/29 17:37:10
    • Status: offline
    Re: X3 Take Lanes Mystery - Am I Doing This Correctly? 2014/08/13 15:43:16 (permalink)
    In case you change your mind?
    #5
    Anderton
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 14070
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 14:02:03
    • Status: offline
    Re: X3 Take Lanes Mystery - Am I Doing This Correctly? 2014/08/13 16:17:33 (permalink)
    SteveStrummerUK
     
    Steve, Craig - many thanks for your replies, and for the clarification.
     
    I'd already knew about Remove Empty Take Lanes, I just couldn't understand why SONAR doesn't automatically remove any empty lanes during the bounce. Try as I might, I can't think of a single good reason for leaving them there 

     
    If you use lots of Take Lanes as a "sandbox" for recording multiple takes, bounce only some of the clips as an intermediate step, and all empty lanes are removed, you'd need to create more lanes every time you did intermediate bounces. However if you were correlating particular parts to track numbers, you couldn't create lanes with the numbers that were removed. IOW if you had Takes 1-5, Takes 2+4 ended up empty, and you wanted to start a part on a new Take 4, you couldn't. If you create a new Take, it will be numbered Take 6.
     
    Of course everyone's workflow is different but I rarely use Take Lanes, do a single bounce, and I'm done.  I end up dragging clips to newly-emptied Lanes, recording into them, and so on. For me, it would be more troublesome to keep having to create new empty lanes every time I bounced than it would be to right-click and delete any remaining ones when I'm done.

    The first 3 books in "The Musician's Guide to Home Recording" series are available from Hal Leonard and http://www.reverb.com. Listen to my music on http://www.YouTube.com/thecraiganderton, and visit http://www.craiganderton.com. Thanks!
    #6
    Sanderxpander
    Max Output Level: -36.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3873
    • Joined: 2013/09/30 10:08:24
    • Status: offline
    Re: X3 Take Lanes Mystery - Am I Doing This Correctly? 2014/08/13 17:58:56 (permalink)
    I think if your purpose is to create "one take" from a selection of different clips in lanes, the idea is to use "flatten comp", in which case all your lanes will be gone.
    #7
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1