Carlo Celuque
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[Solved] How to filter out pedal damper cc information in just one vsti?
Hi Sonar friends, How can I play two VSTis Synth with the same keyboard controller at the same time where one vsti ignores sustain pedal cc and the other accept it? I was trying to play a piano preset vsti together with other string preset vsti but all pedal playing was also received by the strings! Is there a way of filtering out pedal damper information to just one specific vsti and leave it on with another vsti? Thank you very much
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2014/08/14 18:25:07
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Sonar comes with MIDI plugins. One is called MIDI Event Filter. That may meet your needs.
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2014/08/14 18:37:10
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I wonder if the preset for the strings has a mechanism for turning that off for itself. Bob Bone
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2014/08/14 19:57:04
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John Sonar comes with MIDI plugins. One is called MIDI Event Filter. That may meet your needs.
John is correct, that will solve your problem. Insert it in the track hosting the VSTi where you want to filter out the information.
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2014/08/14 21:25:48
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You might want to make a note of doing that, so you know where to change it if you want to end up having sustain on the strings at some point. Bob Bone
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2014/08/15 07:56:28
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Thank you very much Sonar friends. I will try it. Best Regards.
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2014/08/15 16:51:50
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I have added the midi plugin on the vsti track and selected cc 64 from 0 to 127 but it is still receiving the pedal information. Any help? Thank you.
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2014/08/15 19:47:58
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Carlo Celuque I have added the midi plugin on the vsti track and selected cc 64 from 0 to 127 but it is still receiving the pedal information. Any help? Thank you.
That would be an audio track. Try it in the MIDI track. It also has an FX bin.
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2014/08/16 08:23:56
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I inserted the midi fx into the midi track not in the audio track. Then I selected the Controllrers by marking the little square and move the little arrows up and down to #64 which is the pedal cc number. Maybe I am doing something wrong in the selection.
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2014/08/17 08:03:25
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Finally I made it. I discovered how the midi filter works. It is the opposite of I thought. LOL Thank you for all Sonar friends who helped me. Best regards
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2015/03/24 04:09:58
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Can I ask if you discovered how to use the event filter negatively (or like a 'notch' filter), i.e. to filter out just the sustain CC? Or did you discover that the filter only works positively? I'm trying to leave most CCs going to a Hammond (drawbars, Leslie, swell) but stop the sustain (which is needed for the piano but messes up the Hammond). (This is "live"; on its way to the track rather than post-processing a track.) I think I have put the MIDI filter in the correct bin; I can choose which events are allowed through, but I don't seem to be able to choose which event is not to be let through. Thanks.
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2015/03/24 10:26:08
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If i recall correctly, you can drag the bar corresponding to the CC you want (up and down) to the range of values you want to pass - you can go zero to zero for example. You can have all negative, or all positive values. I often use this for wheel events to reduce the range of a wheel event for a particular synth when layering two or more synths.
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Re: How to filter out pedal damper cc information during a performance in just one vsti?
2015/03/25 11:29:41
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Brando ... you can drag the bar corresponding to the CC you want (up and down) to the range of values you want to pass ...
Exactly. I've no problem with setting the filter up to pass an event or a range of event values; but I can't figure out if it can be set to deny or hold back a certain value (CC 64) - i.e. act as a "notch" filter. ...You can have all negative, or all positive values...
I'm guessing that by "negative", you mean the wheel values. However, if the whole plugin has a button for act positively or act negatively then that's probably what I want; but I haven't found that functionality. There are other MIDI plugins out there that can act as a "notch" filter but I was hoping I could use the Cakewalk one.
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