Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files

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Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files

Yes, I know how to right-click the file, go to Cakewalk in my C:drive and choose Sonar X3 as my default program but it won't take. So far I have succeeded in having X1 or Internet Explorer (LOL!) to be default programs but no luck with X3. It used to be fine until I re-installed X1. Any ideas?

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/22 10:08:07 (permalink)
    Project files open based on the registry entry
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CakewalkProjectFile\shell\open\command
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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/22 12:01:56 (permalink)
    I always had a similar problem but with the "open with" option. It always opens the first Sonar installed on my puter but I can't get to open with the version of Sonar I want. It always opens in 8.?? and would like it to open in X2.
     
    It's not a huge deal as I only use the "open with" command for opening up midi files to work with. I've always just done that and save the project as normal and then open in X2. If I could get it to open in X2, I could uninstall all the previous versions I don't use.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/22 14:51:05 (permalink)
    Just run the X3 installer again and it should return to being the default.  Just unclick all of the options except for the program itself so as not to potentially mess up any current settings.
     
    The same thing happened to me where X1 was the default after I'd reinstalled it.
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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/22 17:17:32 (permalink)
    For me it has always been the latest installation is default. No matter how many times I changed the OPEN WITH settings.
     
     
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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/22 18:53:17 (permalink)
    Try shift + right click on the file otherwise get into the reg hacking. Ta.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/22 20:31:18 (permalink)
    Thank you for the tip.
     
    But, should not have to do other than use the windows dialog to choose the default program.
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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 02:19:48 (permalink)
    Are you using Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Default Programs\Set Associations?
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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 02:52:48 (permalink)
    slartabartfast
    Are you using Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Default Programs\Set Associations?




    This.
     
    If this doesn't work, try Alex's suggestion.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 07:08:45 (permalink)
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    Are you using Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Default Programs\Set Associations?




    This.
     
    If this doesn't work, try Alex's suggestion.


    Thank you. Went there. But under default programs there is no Sonar to be found. Am I missing something? Under default programs, the only option in the pull down menu is set default programs and there is no cakewalk or sonar.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 07:14:52 (permalink)
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    Project files open based on the registry entry
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CakewalkProjectFile\shell\open\command


    Thanks for the help. Went to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT but tgere was no CakewalkProjectFile to be found. Or maybe I was supposed to create that? Apologies if so. I am not a geek. Would need detailed instructions if this were the case.
     
    Does this mean I should re-install Sonar X3?

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 07:16:25 (permalink)
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    Just run the X3 installer again and it should return to being the default.  Just unclick all of the options except for the program itself so as not to potentially mess up any current settings.
     
    The same thing happened to me where X1 was the default after I'd reinstalled it.


    Ok, it's come to this. I did recently re-install X1 to get V-vocal back, so I guess that is the problem. Thank you for your insight.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 11:56:10 (permalink)
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    For me it has always been the latest installation is default.



    That seems logical.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 12:55:45 (permalink)
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    Are you using Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Default Programs\Set Associations?




    This.
     
    If this doesn't work, try Alex's suggestion.


    Thank you. Went there. But under default programs there is no Sonar to be found. Am I missing something? Under default programs, the only option in the pull down menu is set default programs and there is no cakewalk or sonar.


    I am not quite clear now about what you are trying to do. 
    If it is to have your current version of Sonar automatically look in the right place to find your projects etc., then the registry hack or the file folder locations dialogue is the place to start:
    http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X3&language=3&help=Dialogs2.062.html
     
    If you want to open your cwp file in your latest version of Sonar, then you have missed something. You need to go to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Default Programs\Set Associations find the cwp extension in the list click/highlight it, click the "change program" button in the upper right to open the "choose the program..." window, click the "browse" button in the lower right of that window and then navigate to the Sonar(whatever version).exe file where it is installed on your hard drive. Click/highlight the Sonar executable file then click the "open" button in the lower right to open the "open with" dialogue window, highlight the Sonar file if it is not already selected and then click OK. If you do not see any file extensions (.exe etc.) it is because Windows is hiding this useful knowledge from you to "protect" you from yourself. Switch to details view and select the appropriately named file of the type "application."
     
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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 13:17:20 (permalink)
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    I did recently re-install X1 to get V-vocal back, so I guess that is the problem. Thank you for your insight.


    As I predicted, please check my last post here:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3080586

    BTW CJ was right. You might want to acknowledge this on that thread as you gave him some stick for what appeared pretty sensible advice.
    post edited by CakeAlexS - 2014/08/23 13:25:25

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 19:31:37 (permalink)
    I will run the X3 installer again, after which I will run X3e.
     
    I went through all of the registry place where SONARPDR.exe appeared, and did not find anything there that looked like it would point X2 to open midi files, but that's what happens on my machine, so there must be some other mechanism in place - OR I missed it.  I of course found lots of mentions of X2 and X3 in the registry, but nothing that looked like a place to tweak successfully, so, as noted above, I will just run the X3 and X3a program installers only, to set midi files to open with X3e.
     
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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 21:05:51 (permalink)
    If you are unable to change the file extension association with the procedure at:
    Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Default Programs\Set Associations
     
    It may be that the association was set by/for another user than the one you are logged in as now or that there is a problem with the registry key for the association
    http://www.thewindowsclub.com/fix-unable-change-default-program-extension-windows-7
     
    Or since the OP apparently experienced the problem after a re-install of a previous version, that the more recent sonar version itself is not properly registered.

    In regedit: Navigate to Computer\HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications and find your .exe name. 
    Navigate under its name to shell>open>command. In the Default change its location to the actual location of the executable, hit okay and then try and re-associate the file type as you normally would.
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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/23 22:04:45 (permalink)
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    I did recently re-install X1 to get V-vocal back, so I guess that is the problem. Thank you for your insight.


    As I predicted, please check my last post here:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3080586

    BTW CJ was right. You might want to acknowledge this on that thread as you gave him some stick for what appeared pretty sensible advice.




    Hi CakeAlexS. Thank you for your post. Concerning CJ, 1st of all, these are 2 separate problems. Re-installing X3 would not have brought V-vocal back. That was the problem in the other thread I was looking to solve. 2nd of all, if you read that post again you will see accusations of RTFM. Giving the wrong advice, coupled with telling me that if I would read the manual like I should have all would be ok, with the addition of "its not always what you say, but how you say it", I would say I was quite ok in my response. That's my take on it.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/25 17:18:08 (permalink)
    I had this same issue recently. When you navigate to a program and select it but it fails to show up in the list as a default option there is definitely something wrong with the way Windows is handling it. A person should NOT have to go into the registry to fix it. But that is often the case.
     
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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/25 20:36:00 (permalink)
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    I did recently re-install X1 to get V-vocal back, so I guess that is the problem. Thank you for your insight.


    As I predicted, please check my last post here:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3080586

    BTW CJ was right. You might want to acknowledge this on that thread as you gave him some stick for what appeared pretty sensible advice.




    Hi CakeAlexS. Thank you for your post. Concerning CJ, 1st of all, these are 2 separate problems. Re-installing X3 would not have brought V-vocal back. That was the problem in the other thread I was looking to solve. 2nd of all, if you read that post again you will see accusations of RTFM. Giving the wrong advice, coupled with telling me that if I would read the manual like I should have all would be ok, with the addition of "its not always what you say, but how you say it", I would say I was quite ok in my response. That's my take on it.


    Sorry but he was quite correct. You shouldn't have reinstalled X1 to get vvocal back, and as a result you are in the current situation. I don't see any problems refering to readme files either, that's actually a pretty sensible thing to do when installing software.

    Ironically it may be a good idea to reinstall X3 now you've installed X1 (that is debatable though).

    Anyway the full detail as I pointed out to you was in my last post on that thread so I won't go into any more specifics here.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/26 04:36:29 (permalink)
    Hello Alex. I am still not following you. You are suggesting that if I would have re-installed X3 after uninstalling X1 I would have gotten V-vocal back?

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/26 06:27:22 (permalink)
    I'll paste in what I said in the other thread...
     
    CakeAlexS
    You just run X1 setup and just select vvocal if you have X3 already installed (no need to install X1), check it's in the vst file path then rescan. That's all you need to do.
     
    If you have installed X1 in full after you installed X3 you stand to lose just the file associations if you just went ahead with the default. If I did that myself personally I would install X3 again as a precaution in case any newer reg entries or plugin files got overwritten....
    ... Correction I would uninstall both and do it like I initially suggested.. There may be no need to do this but I'm a cautious fellow.

     
    My current advise (as you have now installed X1) is optional , there may be no need to take it if you aren't running into further issues. Cakewalk would have done a lot to separate X1 from X3 so they don't conflict when installing backwards but I'm not sure they would have tested for that scenario.


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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/26 06:52:48 (permalink)
    Thank you Alex. Both problems are solved. Getting V-vocal back was solved by re-installing X1 (though as you mentioned, I only needed to run the set-up), and getting my file associations are back by running the set-up only and X3e for X3 (as the default is the latest installation so now it points to X3 instead of X1.)
     
    Here is Cj's advice to get V-vocal back:
    You do not need to RE-INSTALL X1 to get X3 working again. Just re-install X3 again and those files will not be associated with X1. This is all written ion the read me' files your suppose to read before installing. You do not need X1 to have X3 working. Your running 50 miles, when you just need to walk 10 feet. 
    So are you suggesting that CJ's advice is sound, and that I could have gotten V-vocal back just by reinstalling X3?
    Thank you for the help.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/26 12:46:17 (permalink)
    It's already been covered... What he said was you didn't need to install X1 which was true. I don't see any need to rehash what was already written on the other thread what was stated was perfectly clear in that context. Anyway I'm glad it's now working. Cheers.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/26 21:36:25 (permalink)
    FWIW, I don't think Vvocal can be installed separately, but only as part of the main application.  That's why I chimed in on the other thread - X1 itself does have to be installed in order to get Vvocal.   Or am I not remembering this correctly...   (wouldn't be the first time)
     

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/27 13:47:01 (permalink)
    I remember it via the custom install option. If I am talking out of my behind I'm happy to be called out.

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    Re: Weird-can't get Sonar X3 to be the default program for my files 2014/08/27 14:09:32 (permalink)
    At least with the X series, V-Vocal is not a separately installable plug-in. The plug-in can only be installed with the basic option or by installing SONAR (the program at the top of the pick list) from the advanced option. If there is a way to get the installer to install V-Vocal only, I would like to know how.
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