Track Audio Not Stable After Bounce to Track

For a 73 year old, I have a pretty good crop of hair; but, I find myself pulling more and more of it out  as I try to synchronize ten separate Voice tracks that I am working on as an acapella version of No Not Much  made popular by the Four Lads.  Maybe it is carelessness as I modify track rhythms to sync them up. In any event I put this out to learn if others have found similar issues with Sonar X3.  I thought I read somewhere on this forum that such an issues exists.  I have not attempted (on this piece) to use AudioSnap. Maybe it's only hear-say (or heresy); but,  I read that maybe it is not all that is is cracked up to be.   

...and what do you mean by "not stable"?

noynekker
You may lose more hair with Audio Snap than you would with Melodyne.

 By the way, I appreciate your sense of humor.  May I assume that Audio Snap is problematic?

cpkoch

noynekker
You may lose more hair with Audio Snap than you would with Melodyne.

By the way, I appreciate your sense of humor.  May I assume that Audio Snap is problematic?

What Craig is saying, I have found to be true - - - if you spend a lot of time with the Manual, and really study AudioSnap it can be a powerful tool . . . but if you start clicking AudioSnap buttons without the knowledge of what they do to the project, things can get messed up pretty good, and are hard to undo.
 
I really think Melodyne is the best for manipulating Vocal Audio tracks, but best if you have the Melodyne Editor version. The "Essential" version that comes with X3 certainly has some limitations.
 
Bounce to Clips is what I use after editing, that keeps everything simple, and also "Removing Empty take Lanes" can help, but it sounds like you're using Bounce to Tracks ?
 
Do you use the nudge feature when aligning the vocal part clips to move in small increments ?

+1 to the bounce to clips. Also whenever you get into rendering anything, save the project with a new descriptive name.
 
Without seeing what you are working with, if you get into working with audio clips that were not recorded at the same time, the synching process can get complex. I have recorded ideas off-the-cuff and later wanted to keep them, so have split the clips into phrases. If you CTRL-drag the right edge of a clip, you can time-stretch phrases, which sometimes works better than the overall clip (due to fluctuations in a live performance). When edited to your liking, highlight all the clips in the track, right click, and select "Bounce to Clip(s)."
 
The reason for the bounce to clip is that the (edited) clips you have created are "windows" into the same audio file, but each with different "views." When you select all of these clips and "bounce to clip" it renders one new audio file (hence saving as a new project name). Depending on effects used, etc., this can also reduce CPU loading (depending on project size). I am pretty old school in keeping things simple... if it sounds like what you want, then commit it so that the computer doesn't have to process edits each time.
 
I am hoping that the tracks you are working with were all recorded at the same time. Questions like this are where a "community Gobbler" account would come in handy, since it would be easier to actually see what you are working with.

Unfortunately, Conrad (Connie) came onboard with X3, so does not have V-Vocal. I am also hesitant to recommend things too detailed without seeing what he is doing.
 
Conrad, if you still come into snags and are willing to share your project (another option to get quicker help)...
 
1) Make sure you are using "Use Per-Project Audio Folders" (Preferences->File->Audio Data) if not already.
2) You can do a "save as" then create a new folder, drill into that new folder, and make sure "Copy all audio with project" is checked on the save dialog, then "Save." This will copy only the audio necessary to make the project "complete" for sharing, so may make it significantly smaller depending on what edits you have done already.
3) If you zip what is in that folder (project file and Audio subfolder), you can post it on your website.
 
Just something to keep in mind. I realize the aggressive schedule you have created for yourself, and even looking up things in references can be hit or miss unless you know the term you are looking for.