bluzdog
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What Skiis to buy?
It's that time of year when all of the local ski shops are having big time sales. I haven't bought new boards or boots in years. Does anyone have any input on some all around mountain alpine skiis, boots and bindings. Maybe last years model bang for the buck stuff or something. Thanks.
Rocky
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/25 13:55:28
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Where's Batsbrew when you need him?
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bluzdog
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/25 14:08:43
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Where's Batsbrew when you need him?
That's what I'm talking about!!! Rocky
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/25 14:55:40
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☄ Helpfulby bluzdog 2014/08/25 15:40:44
LOL, here i am..... you know, trying to pick skis from someone you don't really know, is like trying to order take out from a vietnamese restaurant for your grandmother-in-law...... hehehe impossible. BOOTS: NUMERO UNO. there is no more important element to enjoying skiing, than having boots that work and fit. in fact, you could just spend an entire season trying out demo boots, or at least researching by trying on EVERY SINGLE BOOT you can find in your size. you have been warned. SKIS:ok, so there are some basic questions you gotta know first... 1. skill level 2. height, weight 3. what kind of terrain do you want to ski on; off-piste, deep powder, moguls, groomers, flats, steeps, boilerplate, that kind of stuff. basically, i boil it down to 'western skiing', or 'eastern skiing' 4. one ski quiver, or multiple sets to handle multiple conditions. that all said, there are some basic rules to selecting a ski.... you got some specific alpine skis, and some generic all around skis.. powder, all mountain, race, twin tip, and they ALL feel different, and ALL ski different. in fact, i'll butt in right here, and say this: if you do not know what you want, DEMO>  spend a few choice days, and Demo different style skis. that is the ONLY WAY you are going to find out what works for you. IF you have cash just BURNING a hole in your wallet.... try this: look at last years best models (research, homework) here are some links: http://www.skis.com/Buying-Guide-for-Skis/buying-guide-1-12-2012,default,pg.htmlhttp://www.snowlink.com/ski/introtoski/skiequipmentbasics.aspxhttp://www.evo.com/how-to-choose-skis-size-chart-and-guide.aspxhttp://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/downhill-skis.htmlhttp://www.frostyrider.com/tips/size-guide-skis.htmhttp://skiing.about.com/od/downhillskiing/a/chooseskis.htm \etc etc last years models, that might be on closeout or for sale at the local demo shops (i NEVER buy new skis. i always buy a set 2-3 years old, usually with DEMO bindings on them so i don't have to re-mount the bindings, typically i never spend more than about $250-300 on a set.) http://www.onthesnow.com/news/p/830/2012-2013-onthesnow-editors--choice-skishttp://www.ski-review.com/http://www.skinet.com/skiing/photo-gallery/14-best-mens-skis-2013http://freeskier.com/stories/top-10-skis-the-best-all-mountain-skis-of-2012-2013http://gearpatrol.com/2013/04/02/10-best-skis-2012-2013/ http://www.powder.com/gear/15-best-all-mountain-skis/ some new stuff that is older and reduced price can be found here: http://www.backcountry.com/https://www.ski-depot.com/http://www.skis.com/
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bluzdog
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/25 15:50:20
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I knew you would pull through Bat!!!! I will digest all of the info you provided and thanks for taking the time to do so.
Rocky
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/25 16:08:38
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Skis try to make me into a tree hugger so I avoid using them.
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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batsbrew
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/26 15:27:41
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bluz,
fill in some of the questions,
i can make some suggestions?
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bluzdog
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/26 18:12:44
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1) According to links provided I'm classified as advanced.
2) 5’6” 150ish.
3) I like to ski bumps but I don’t blast down the tops of them. I don’t usually ski double black diamonds but I like to get in some of the back bowls around here. I pretty much stay out of the glades because I have never worn a helmet but I just got one . It’s rare that I get to ski on a powder day so it’s usually packed powder when I get there.
4) Just one all around set. I'll keep my old 180 K2 Merlin IV's for crud.
Thanks for the help Gonzo.
Rocky
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/26 18:56:40
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sounds like you are in the 'all mountain ski' range..."mixed west" is a common term... you've got really light powder near the front range, but if you like groomers and moguls, then pure powder does not make sense. i would guess, length at anywhere from forehead to just above the head (165-177) the wider underfoot, the more powder.... but, if you want tighter radius turns, you have to consider width AND sidecut.... the new skis are really different...i've skied those merlins, really nice skis for 'old school', but the new ones feel completely different. again, i highly suggest demo'ing first, and unless you are planning a LOT of ski days, it may make sense to dedicate a whole season to demos, and at the end of the season, buy some leftovers or better yet, one-season DEMO's they always let go of at end of season. boots first, skis second. here are some year-old choices.... best bet of finding at reduced price, closeout, demo, or used local http://www.evo.com/shop/s.../w-width_90-99-mm.aspxhttp://www.onthesnow.com/...en-s-all-mountain-skishttp://freeskier.com/stor...all-mountain-skis-2014http://www.skinet.com/ski/best-all-mountain-skis
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/26 20:53:05
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On a ski lift ride a few years ago.... a bearded younger fellow was sharing the lift ride with me.... he looks down at my skis and says... Dude, those are some seriously old skool skis.
Yup, they are. My father in law found them in the trash and gave them to me. They had broken binders so I picked up a pair on Ebay for $20 or something. No ski shop techs would even talk with me about putting them on for me so I broke out the black and decker and did it myself.
So far, I have skied on them for several years, including several black diamond runs (east coast frozen granular and worse) and have yet to kill myself or break anything. Binders set loose for easy release. I'm no pro, but certainly can handle the advanced trails....old skool styling.
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/26 21:58:59
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I like colorful skis which are easier to spot during a yard sale... 
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/26 23:38:48
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You're killing me Rocky.
Man, I miss Colorado. and I miss my Hart 210 slaloms. and the basin at the top of #2 at Loveland. And midweek skiing at A Basin, Keystone, and Breckenridge when there were 4 other people on the mountain.
I never cared much for bumps, and the 210's sucked for that, but give me a nice open run, get up to speed, and they cut so sweet.
I have no recommendations and defer to Bat.
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bluzdog
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/27 08:07:54
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Those are some long boards. I'm about 45 minutes from Loveland and not much further to the others. I'll probably get a Copper pass this year. You'd be blown away at the walk-up rates and weekend traffic these days.
Gonzo, I think I'll narrow things down a bit and demo this year as suggested.Thanks for all of the help.
We've been having a cool wet summer, if this trend keeps up we're gonna have an epic winter.
Rocky
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/27 10:28:52
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last year we ended up with 432" at Alta (my favorite), well below the norm of 500"
but, it was mostly 4-6% on top, we had a lot of lake effect from the great salt lake
it's been the same here, cool and wet....... but i don't know if that translates into steady flow during the winter.
i'll be hitting the ski swaps here in october,
i'm currently on some Salomon 1080 guns, and at 96 under foot, they are still too small.
LOL
guys around here, ski on double rocker twin tips at about 115 under foot, and still cut up the groomers and crud on them.
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i think 'all mountain skis' are now considered anything from 79 to 99 under foot.....
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/27 10:34:16
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rocky-
by the way, i have a friend that has been living out in colorado since about mid 90's, now, he used to live in Ptarmagan (across the highway from copper and breck) and now lives in Southpark....
PM me if you'd be interested in meeting him, he used to ski Loveland a lot.....
and likes a basin as well......
he's a carpenter in the area.
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/29 08:19:06
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I love midweek skiing...... and hate weekends.
Here in NC we have limited places to ski so everybody and their brother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle, and extended family all want to hit the same slope at the same time.....weekend afternoons are the worst.
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/29 09:35:07
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I love midweek skiing...... and hate weekends.
Here in NC we have limited places to ski so everybody and their brother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle, and extended family all want to hit the same slope at the same time.....weekend afternoons are the worst.
Here in CO we have numerous world class ski resorts but most of them are accessed via I-70 which becomes a nightmare on weekends. If I could be flexible and ski week days I would. Copper mountain has (or had) a powder pass for $100. If they get 4" or more the night before you can use the powder pass. It's an insane good if you have a flexible schedule. Rocky
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/29 15:35:40
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Guitarhacker
Here in NC we have limited places to ski so everybody and their brother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle, and extended family all want to hit the same slope at the same time.....weekend afternoons are the worst.
i learned how to ski at Appalachian, then would always ski at Hawksnest. sometimes Beech, sometimes Sugar. i thought that was just the greatest thing in the world... until i moved to salt lake. Greatest snow on earth. says so on the car tag.......
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/29 15:40:15
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batsbrew
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Re: What Skiis to buy?
2014/08/29 15:42:58
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here's what bluzdog is talking about......  ugh.
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