Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e?

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2014/09/12 04:30:59 (permalink)

Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e?

Is anybody successfully using ST3? I have installed the demo (called ST3 Free) and it works fine as stand-alone, but as a VST3 in X3e, it just misbehaves. Notes appear to stick (staying illuminated red on the ST3 virtual keyboard). The MIDI meter in the Instrument Track pulses constantly, although no audio is present. Reset MIDI and Audio makes no difference. The pulsing continues even with the Audio engine off. It looks like some kind of MIDI feedback, but I cannot find the cause.
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    DeeringAmps
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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/12 08:52:14 (permalink)
    Although I have not used it very much, ST3 is working fine in X3e for me.
    However, I did NOT instal the VST3 dll.
    Do some digging in the software forum (maybe its was in this forum as well).
    I think there is some discussion about the VST3 dll being an issue.
     
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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/12 11:07:11 (permalink)
    I'm using ST3 and even after the first update (3.0.1), VST3 is still giving me issues. It drops notes (never the same ones twice) at the start of a file but then plays the rest ok. VST2 works fine, so I've given up on VST3 for the moment. Will be trying 3.0.2 over the weekend. 

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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/12 11:16:45 (permalink)
    I'm having the same "stuck notes" issues as you, and on certain projects it seems to take forever to load.  I haven't downloaded the update yet; so maybe it will offer some relief.
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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/12 11:16:49 (permalink)
    Don't use the vst3 version. Vst2 work fine in x3e.

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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/12 11:39:03 (permalink)
    @Jude77 @groverken - It's 3.0.2 that I'm trying, so I'm guessing that it won't improve your lot either.
     
    @musichoo @tom deering - I only installed VST3 (trusting soul that I am). I'll uninstall VST3 and  install (and presumably have to authorise) VST2 when I get a moment.
     
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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/12 12:24:03 (permalink)
    I raised a ticket to iK Support when ST3 was released to tell them the VST3 version was duff. That was over a month ago so I sent a reminder today. No reply yet. Apparently they didn't beta test with Sonar...
    Use the VST2 dll and you should be ok.

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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/12 14:21:18 (permalink)
    Seems to be working fine here.. I haven't used it for anything, just played with it a bit. Having only the piano sound (free version) has it's limits for a guitarist... ;-)

    I've only used the VST2 version as I didn't think of any reason I needed 3...

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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/15 09:47:57 (permalink)
    2 SamplTank 3 updates since release and VST3 still doesn't work in Sonar. I'm still using VST2. I don't know what additional functions are exposed if and when they get VST 3 working in Sonar X3e.

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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/15 11:14:20 (permalink)
    There was a thread here a few weeks ago about the same issue and the consensus was that you should use the VST2 version in Sonar. It seems it is a Sonar issue since the VST3 version works in other DAWs (IIRC).
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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/15 11:16:18 (permalink)
    VST 3 instruments from Arturia also do not work in X3. I think there are some others. There are several threads upstairs. It would appear to me that the implematation of VST 3 in sonar is somewhat lacking.

    There are some insights from Craig Anderton on why this may be in the main forum threads.

    And Sample Tank 3 VST2 worls perfectly in X3

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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/15 11:28:26 (permalink)
    Working with 3.0.2 over the weekend and can confirm that VST3 is still a non-starter but VST2 works a treat!

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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/15 12:35:35 (permalink)
    I find myself opting for the vst2 versions of most plugs in Sonar due to issues with a few vst3 products. ST3 works well as vst2
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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/16 11:31:14 (permalink)
    It is just too CPU hungry for me. I can run pretty much anything I want in the way of VSTis in my projects. I put in the demo piano in ST3 and my CPU almost jumped out of the machine! Clicks, pops, moans, groans! No ST3 for me.

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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/16 15:24:33 (permalink)
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    I raised a ticket to iK Support when ST3 was released to tell them the VST3 version was duff. That was over a month ago so I sent a reminder today. No reply yet. Apparently they didn't beta test with Sonar...
    Use the VST2 dll and you should be ok.



    I suspect that is because they haven't had enough complaints. If everybody logged a ticket to iK, and pointed them to this thread, I suspect they would be onto it pretty quick...

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    Re: Does Sample Tank 3 work in X3e? 2014/09/16 16:10:10 (permalink)
    As I still had no reply to my IK ticket I posted yesterday on the IK forum. Peter, the IK guy there who always replies very quickly to issues raised (though most often saying you need to refer the matter to Support...) said he would take it up with them and get my ticket replied to. We'll see what transpires.

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