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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/09/26 14:34:44
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THANKS!
I recently read/saw somewhere that the Beatles had been accused for so long about putting backward voices and such into recordings that they actually decided to do that on of their Sgt Pepper's tunes (sorry my brain is a bit sketchy on details).
They did do some incredible things with some really primitive hardware.
Great post :)
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/09/27 15:31:28
An ta think I'm doin' some pretty primitive things with some really incredible hardware (and software). My how times is changin'! 
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/09/27 02:00:30
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/09/27 10:05:20
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Martin’s Bach-inspired Piano solo was written at a tempo that Martin himself couldn’t play. The engineers brilliantly recorded the part with the tape running at half-speed, so when it was played back at normal speed, the solo was an octave higher and twice as fast.
Very interesting...I've always thought of that as being the best harpsichord ride I'd ever heard.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/09/27 14:05:58
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/09/27 14:27:58
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Thanks Larry. That is an interesting read. The last part, about Oh Darling! explains a lot to me. I miss my vocal range and strength.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/09/27 14:48:29
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Lennon later did the same thing for Mother IIRC, trying to capture THE take at the end of each session.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
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It's strange to think that the most they spent on an album is a few months - yet, they did things like this, working out their vocals.
And that's for an actual band - four guys, each having their instrumental parts and their vocals to record. Not counting the guest musicians and orchestras, whose parts Martin had to write down before he actually got them in the studio and set them up to record.
All without the convenience of non-linear playback systems and digital editing.
All of that in a recording career that spans over only 8 years, the first half of which was split with tours and promo and making movies. Amazing.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/09/27 15:40:33
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I remember hearing once that The Beatles did sum stuff.
Is it true?
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
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bapu
I remember hearing once that The Beatles did sum stuff.
Is it true?
They were mathematicians? No, I never heard that.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/09/27 20:36:06
I highly recommend the book Here, There and Everywhere, written by Geoff Emerick if you are interested in all the details of how they recorded and the things they did in the studio that was completely different from the norm of those days in time. They paved the way for most of the things that we take for granted today. I remember reading something about John wanting to place a live mic underwater during either the Yellow Submarine's sessions or Octopus's Garden sessions and they stopped him before he electrocuted himself. Another interesting technique was wiring up a guitar speaker to act as a microphone, to capture sound rather than push sound. Just really interest stuff through out this book, as well as plenty of discussion on how they interacted with one another and went about their work. I need to read it again, in fact. There is just so much to absorb.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/10/02 17:41:22
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Another great book is Recording the Beatles. It's expensive, but the amount of work that went into it explains why.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/10/02 18:20:53
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the very first time i heard that middle break in 'in my life' as a wee child,
i said 'that sounds fake'.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/10/02 18:35:32
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Well I was four years old at that time so I guess It sounded alright to me. 😀
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
2014/10/03 08:19:07
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MakeShift
I highly recommend the book Here, There and Everywhere, written by Geoff Emerick if you are interested in all the details of how they recorded and the things they did in the studio that was completely different from the norm of those days in time. They paved the way for most of the things that we take for granted today.
I remember reading something about John wanting to place a live mic underwater during either the Yellow Submarine's sessions or Octopus's Garden sessions and they stopped him before he electrocuted himself.
Another interesting technique was wiring up a guitar speaker to act as a microphone, to capture sound rather than push sound. Just really interest stuff through out this book, as well as plenty of discussion on how they interacted with one another and went about their work. I need to read it again, in fact. There is just so much to absorb.
Here, There and Everywhere was a fun book and worth the read from a guy that was in the studio for hours on end with the Beatles and George Martin. Just some enlightening and really funny stories. Stuff like when Geoff experimented with using a rotating speaker (Leslie) for vocals ... John liked the effect so much he badgered him for a long time about hanging him (John) from a wire and spinning him around while Geoff recorded his vocals which they finally talked him out of trying.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
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Anderton
Another great book is Recording the Beatles. It's expensive, but the amount of work that went into it explains why.
Save up your pennies and buy that book !!!I was a gud boy and received it as a birthday present Lots of vintage gear porn in the book.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
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After reading these links I wound up on iTunes. I was trying to figure out why I would buy a digital box set (The Anthology). I went to Amazon and listened to some samples and was about to buy it when I somehow ended up on Thebeatles.com where I saw a video of Paul pleading for "meatless Monday" and some climate change stuff. I decided to pass, I have the memories. I'm really glad I didn't buy it then see the video.
When I become a famous musician I am going to just sing my songs and go home.
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Re: Intesting Article on Techniques used by Engineers for the Beatles
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After reading these links I wound up on iTunes. I was trying to figure out why I would buy a digital box set (The Anthology). I went to Amazon and listened to some samples and was about to buy it when I somehow ended up on Thebeatles.com where I saw a video of Paul pleading for "meatless Monday" and some climate change stuff. I decided to pass, I have the memories. I'm really glad I didn't buy it then see the video.
When I become a famous musician I am going to just sing my songs and go home.
Julien
Amen to that one!! If they don't tell you to go home while you are singing your song you're ahead of the game anyway.
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