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Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
Hi, thank you for your assistance! I'm getting continual dropouts (best is every 2 mins) while recording audio. How can cease the audio dropouts (for at least an 8 mins record)? My Windows Event Viewer/Application error message is: " Faulting application sonarpdr.exe, version 14.2.0.228, faulting module sonarpdr.exe, version 14.2.0.228, fault address 0x004fe3a5." Corresponds to when Sonar CPU % display rapidly peaks (over 90 or 100%). I typically record an audio clip from internet, out PC StereoJack to Presonus Ch1&2 (or mic to Ch1), record in Sonar5 audio track. What I done so far:Defrag Disk Drive before every use. Close & Startup-disable every program I can. Using recommended FireWire Card. Everything updated except Sonar5 (don't know if there's anything appropriate to update). I have:Sonar 5 Producer Edition 5.2 (2001-2005) (never updated) ASIO4ALL v2.11 (updated drivers/prog) Presonus Firepod WDM 24bit/96k firewire (updated drivers/prog) FireWire 3-port PCI (updated drivers/prog) Creative SB X-fi (updated drivers/prog) Windows XP SP3 32bit, AMD Athlon 64x2 dualcore Processor 4200+, 2.21ghz, RAM: 2GB (updated BIOS) Settings: ASIO4ALL: Buffer size 2048, Always Resample 44.1k, Force WDM Driver to 16Bit, In/Out: 32Samples, (options 'Hardware Buffer' or 'Kernal buffers: 4') Sonar5: Sampling Rate: 44100, I/O Buffer Size: 2048k, Enable Read Caching& Enable Write Caching: checked,, Driver Mode: ASIO, Dithering: none, Audio Bit Depth: field greyed out reads '32 bit' but records 16 bit. Thank you for any recommendations: how to fix, or where to go for help. Greg
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/09/27 21:15:48
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First make sure Sonar is actually using your Presonis ASIO drivers when this happens. Asio4all is only used when there are no drivers available for an audio interface. Creative drivers too! That is the second most dreaded sound card with Sonar users. Both are known to take over your ASIO drivers and cause problems. I know this personally as I had one and fought with it for 4 years before the good folks on this forum talked me into buying a proper audio interface,,, which you have. So all you need to do is make sure Sonar is using the presonus and all will be good, Eliminate all other drivers and devices from your system to avoid this problem. The other item might be your firewire card, It seem there are some cards that are not recommended and some are, look into that too.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/09/27 22:51:43
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I see two different problems described: dropouts and crashes. They're very different things.
The sudden CPU spike followed by a GPF suggests a faulty plugin. Try bypassing all plugins while you're recording. Unfortunately, the global effects bypass feature wasn't implemented until SONAR 8, so you'll have to go through and disable them one-by-one.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/09/28 12:43:09
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Sock Mionkey- thank you for your reply. If I uninstall AIO4ALL and Creative sound card, and just use presonus, how do I do that?
If I go into Sonar/Audio Options, ASIO and Creative are the only drivers in the Input & Output Drivers list. There isn't a Presonas driver listed there. I think I must not be understanding something.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/09/28 12:55:42
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Bitfliper- thanks for the advice! Is it correct I go into Tools/Sonar Plugin Manager?
Are you saying I need to disable all the plugins (some 75 of them) one-by-one just while I'm recording?
I use some of these plugins, such as Directx Audio Effects: Cakewalk FxEq, Delay, Flange, etc.
I certainly can disable all the plugins I don't use, that would cut down on the number of plugins I'd have to disable/enable, but that seems a bit tedious.
Is there a plugin in particular that's causing the CPU spike?
Is there some way to determine which one is causing the CPU spike?
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/09/28 19:34:07
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bitflipper is suggesting you try temporarily disabling only the particular plugins that are loaded into this particular project - not all the plugins installed on your system.
What can sometimes happen is that a plugin can for some reason start having problems, and this can cause all kinds of problems for a project that happens to have it loaded and enabled.
In later versions of Sonar, you could hit a single key on your computer keyboard, and 'bypass' all effects loaded into the project, but that functionality was not yet implemented for the version of Sonar you are running.
So, he was suggesting you temporarily turn off all effects that are loaded into this project, and see if that makes your problems go away. If it DOES, than you know that the issues are caused by one or more of these plugins. It is a bit of a pain to have to do that manually, but it will indeed help determine if the problems are caused by one or more plugins.
And, if the problems are still occurring with all of the plugins in the project turned off, then that is also helpful, as you then know something else is the cause of the problems, and the debugging process can focus elsewhere than on the plugins.
And, as far as the audio interface drivers go, I would suggest you COMPLETELY uninstall ASIO4ALL from your system, since you have a Presonus audio interface. ASIO4ALL has caused some problems for people, just by being present on their system - even if it was not actually pointed at by Sonar.
I don't know if removing the Creative drivers is needed or not, but in any case, once ASIO4ALL is gone, you could try:
Go into the Sonar preferences (or whatever it is called in Sonar 5), and remove any checks for audio devices, then you should be able to change your Driver Mode to ASIO and click Apply, and Sonar should then automatically detect the presence of your Presonus ASIO drivers and add the Presonus to your devices and set your playback and recording timing values and such.
I hope that helps, I haven't worked with Sonar 5 for a long while, but conceptually, the above shouldn't be too far off (I hope).
If anyone else is more familiar with Sonar 5 and can offer better guidance, please do so,
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/09/28 19:36:11
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Please post back after you go through the above and have determined whether or not the plugins are the problem or not, and that will help us continue to work through getting things resolved.
Thanks,
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/09/28 19:59:06
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By the way - Cakewalk is having a sale on X3, for any registered Cakewalk user, with the basic X3 upgrade running at only $19.99 usd. You would need to be on Windows 7 or beyond, but in case you want to grab it for your next computer, here is the link: http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=10-CXSR3.00-30E Any of the X3 versions allow for a 32-bit install and a 64-bit install, but you do have to be on Windows 7 with SP1 or beyond. They also have good upgrade prices for the other X3 flavors too - just look on the main Cakewalk web site home page. Bob Bone
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/09/28 23:12:59
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So that explains it, Your not using your Presonis drivers so that is why your having problems. I doubt if the Plug ins are involved even though that is another place to look sometimes.
As Bob has stated, you need to completely remove asio4all, You might even have go into regedit which I've heard people do.
Creative drivers are the same and I had to physically remove the PCI card from my computer to stop the drivers from always taking over Sonar.
Even after I removed all traces of it that I could find there would be a Creative ASIO splash screen warning every time I started Sonar. I put up with it until I finally re did my OS.
I put the Creative Audigy card in my office computer and used it fine for Wave lab and watching movies. But it never worked with Sonar..and believe me I tried cause that dang card cost $350 back then.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/01 14:53:29
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What I've done:
I've uninstalled ASIO4ALL, and had to uninstall Creative SB X-fi (because, like Sock said, Sonar wouldn't allow any drivers except Creative, which disabled the use of my PreSonus).
Even though I uninstalled every Creative program, Sonar still brings up Creative drivers (just like Sock said).
Twice, without any identified cause, Sonar disabled the Presonus drivers, and switched to Creative (after working fine for awhile). So, just like Sock said, I think I'll have to remove my Creative sound card from my PC. I haven't done this yet -- not something I looking forward to.
Outcome:
The dropouts have been minimized greatly. There were none for many 5-7 min recordings. But it appears, after I had filled up my project with many recorded clips (placed in an Archive track), the Sonar CPU % display would peak out & a dropout would occur once in 5 min recording.
Would I be making too big of an assumption to think the later dropouts were due to some 30 minutes of recorded clips in an open project's Archive file? Or is it possibly my Creative sound card that Sonar still wants to pick up?
Regards to Plugins:
When I was getting dropouts (before uninstalling ASIO4ALL/Creative) I'd get dropouts & CPU spikes with the very first recording, when no plugins were used on the project. So, IF a plugin has to be in inserted into a project (such as Insert Effect/Delay on a clip in project) in order for the plugin to cause the dropout/CPU spike/'Faulting-application-sonarpdr.exe' while recording, then the plugins are not the cause.
Thank you again for your help! I really appreciate both your help!
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/01 17:59:36
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There may well still be some Creative references in the Registry, or even ASIO4ALL.
You can determine if loaded plugins are causing dropouts and such, by simply hitting the letter 'E' on your computer keyboard, which will toggle 'bypass all effects' on/off. If you do this to bypass all effects and the dropouts go away, then you have established that one or more of the loaded plugins are at least partially at fault. If, on the other hand, bypassing all effects does NOT clear up dropouts, then it tells you that something else is at work to cause the dropouts.
If you were to carefully go into Regedit, and search for Creative (don't do an exact match), you may locate leftover references to the Creative drivers, but if you find some, you might want to post them here so we could help determine if they could be safely deleted (with a backup/export of the registry done first, or course).
Anyways, I think we can get to the bottom of this stuff - hang in there. :)
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/01 18:05:12
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I am not sure SONAR 5 has a global FX bypass option.
Tracks with the archive button enabled are effectively ignored by SONAR so archived tracks should not cause dropouts. Programs running in the background could be an issue. Disk fragmentation may contribute. Running with too small an ASIO buffer or WDM setting may be an issue.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/01 18:37:31
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Glad it made an improvement. Sound Blaster PCI cards used to be recommended for audio, can you believe that! So programs like Sonar wouldn't work properly and then everyone tells you to try asio4all and you end up with an even worse mess. I speak from my own foray into the world of using a PC for recording back in about 2002. I got so frustrated I returned to using my Atari, Korg and Roland sound modules and an 8 track digital recorder for another 4 years or more. Interestingly Wave Lab seemed to work fine with the Creative Card so I used my PC for mastering and burning CD's only. When the Atari's monitor died I was forced back to the PC and my copy of Guitar Studio. I joined the forum back then. A bit of reading and a few posts and I saw the light and I bought an M Audio fast track pro. But until I removed the PCI card and did a complete re install of my OS I could not stop the Creative driver from shutting down the M Audio at random. Dropouts and huge issues with soft synths. I also got into buying faster hard drives so a 7400 RPM 250 Gig drive and a fresh install of XP sp3 and Sonar 7 and all worked just fine from then on. And that was on a P4 with 2 Gigs of RAM. At least XP is easy to re install and actually a nice fresh install perks things up. ?? Windows updates which I'm not sure they make available anymore. I'm typing on a Windows XP laptop I use for mobile recording. I shut off windows updates 2 years ago. I still have MS Security Essentials and it updates. But make sure you can still get drivers for your computers system and devices. I've run into this a few times with XP. Windows 7 or 8 seem better at installing proper system drivers from scratch. And a side note that you can update to X3 basic for real cheap these days. But it won't run on XP. There might be a manual way to completely remove asio4all and creative in the registry but myself, I found it sometimes quicker to grab my XP sp3 disk.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/01 22:23:33
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I am not sure SONAR 5 has a global FX bypass option.
Tracks with the archive button enabled are effectively ignored by SONAR so archived tracks should not cause dropouts. Programs running in the background could be an issue. Disk fragmentation may contribute. Running with too small an ASIO buffer or WDM setting may be an issue. Ya, I read putting recorded files into a Archive track would reduce, (or eliminate?), the data from being loaded into the RAM, so help preventing maxing-out-the-CPU thus preventing my dropouts. I'd rather not do it, but if it might help, I do it. I'm happy to max all the buffers that might help. There seems to be many buffers listed all over the place. Can you tell what to boost to what? I'll try it.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/01 22:36:22
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Glad it made an improvement. Sound Blaster PCI cards used to be recommended for audio, can you believe that! So programs like Sonar wouldn't work properly and then everyone tells you to try asio4all and you end up with an even worse mess.
I speak from my own foray into the world of using a PC for recording back in about 2002. I got so frustrated I returned to using my Atari, Korg and Roland sound modules and an 8 track digital recorder for another 4 years or more.
Interestingly Wave Lab seemed to work fine with the Creative Card so I used my PC for mastering and burning CD's only.
When the Atari's monitor died I was forced back to the PC and my copy of Guitar Studio.
I joined the forum back then. A bit of reading and a few posts and I saw the light and I bought an M Audio fast track pro. But until I removed the PCI card and did a complete re install of my OS I could not stop the Creative driver from shutting down the M Audio at random. Dropouts and huge issues with soft synths.
I also got into buying faster hard drives so a 7400 RPM 250 Gig drive and a fresh install of XP sp3 and Sonar 7 and all worked just fine from then on. And that was on a P4 with 2 Gigs of RAM.
At least XP is easy to re install and actually a nice fresh install perks things up. ?? Windows updates which I'm not sure they make available anymore. I'm typing on a Windows XP laptop I use for mobile recording. I shut off windows updates 2 years ago. I still have MS Security Essentials and it updates. But make sure you can still get drivers for your computers system and devices. I've run into this a few times with XP. Windows 7 or 8 seem better at installing proper system drivers from scratch.
And a side note that you can update to X3 basic for real cheap these days. But it won't run on XP.
There might be a manual way to completely remove asio4all and creative in the registry but myself, I found it sometimes quicker to grab my XP sp3 disk. I think I'll remove my Creative PCI card and hunt down any reg references. I'm happy to reload Windows XP, but I ran into an issue last time I did it. Good time to bring it up: Of course I saved my Sonar folder with all the saved Projects and file data. After I reinstalled XP & Sonar, Sonar will open my old Sonar saved files, but will not PLAY any of my old Project files/clips. When I try to play, I get the message, "Unable to open audio playback device. Device may not support the current project's audio format or may be in use." My old projects/files are saved 24-bit, and post-XP-reinstall, I do 16-bit recording. Still, I've tried setting all Sonar bit depth settings to 24-bit (Options/GlobalOptions/AudioData/File Bit Depths), close/re-open, open older 24-bit projects, but I still get the same error. That's got me scared I'll not be able to open all my current Sonar files if I reinstall Windows again.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/01 22:47:16
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Freezing and archiving will reduce load.
Usually the only buffer than needs tuning throughout the life of a project is the ASIO or WDM setting in the Mixing Latency section in Driver Settings. At least, I believe was called Mixing Latency that in SONAR 5. It has been almost 10 years since I worked in SONAR 5. The value will need to change depending on the project. All the other buffers like Playback and Recording I/O are set and forget. These settings are system specific so it is difficult to provide settings to try but once dialed in, these won't need to change.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/01 22:53:35
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The word length is not a issue, Sonar works at 32 floating point. It is the clock rate that gives that warniong. You get that message if your drivers don't support a certain clock rate or if they are hung up while switching.
I used to use 48, But I wanted to use my old Yamaha 01V mixer and it only runs at 44.1.
So as a result I have a lot of older projects that run at 48. All that happens is you hear a crackle and a pop when opening the projects as the audio engine switches clock rates.
But I've also had them hang up and get that message. Albums at 48 are all finished but I am re doing all my backing tracks and it's driving me nuts when I open one that is 48.
Anyway if your audio interface supports both 44.1 and 48 the projects will run.
Once again that message is probably something to do with those bad drivers lurking.
What I always do is pull the C drive and put it to one side and use a fresh Hard drive for the re install. 1 TB 7400 Drives are around $50. That way it's easy to go back if something doesn't work out. . Just put the old drive back in. If all goes smoothly I either put the old drive on the shelf, put it in a external drive encloser or use it as a data drive inside.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/02 01:30:23
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When I try to play, I get the message, "Unable to open audio playback device. Device may not support the current project's audio format or may be in use."
It has been a while since I used XP, but Windows itself has a designated file format somewhere under preferences in Windows for your Sound Options. I am not sure of SONAR 5, but some programs require the windows setting to match the program settings or they will not talk to each other (i.e., there is no "middle-man" converting the data). This may be why your bit-depth field is greyed out (since SONAR will adapt itself to the audio interface). A couple quick things to check - - Look in the sound options for XP, and check the "properties" or "settings." I assume you may be set to "CD quality" (why you are "locked" in to 16bit/44.1KHz). See if you can adjust this to the project parameters.
- Try running SONAR in WDM mode. Situations also occur where Windows will take ownership of a device on boot. Many ASIO devices are "exclusive," so if Windows owns it, SONAR cannot use it. WDM mode allows multiple audio interfaces to be accessed/shared.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/11 16:36:33
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(Thank you for the clock rate & buffer information!) I'm still getting dropouts. (It's improved, but still dropouts) I have a question on using ONLY my PreSonus driver(s): When I removed my Creative sound card, and tried using Presonus drivers only, I was not able to record audio originating from my PC (let's say from Youtube). So I reinstalled my motherboard sound drivers (Realtek High Definition Audio Ver 5.10.0.5874, Device Manager: Realtek for Audio Devices, Mixer Devices & Line Input Devices). Then I was able to record youtube in Sonar5. Is it possible to record PC source audio (youtube) with ONLY using my Presonus Firepod & Presonus drivers? If so, what was I doing wrong, or what did I forget? When I only had the Presonus Firepod and Presonus drivers installed (no Realtek), the only thing connecting my PC (youtube source) to my Firepod is the firewire. I could heard PC/youtube audio coming out of my Firepod (headphones), but no matter what I set in Sonar5, I could not get an audio signal in Sonar5. All the drivers in Sonar5 were set to Presonus, but nothing. There's no "Fire Wire" option (in Sonar drivers list) like there is for Firepod in 1&2, Firepod in S/PDIF L. Sounds like you're telling me it's possible (use presonus ony), so I must be missing something. (Remember, need to avoid feedback.) Can you advise me? Thank you! Greg http://www.presonus.com/products/FP10 
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/11 17:21:38
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Once upon a time, soundblaster cards were not a horrible option for the budget conscious hobbyist. They were certainly an upgrade over built-in in sound. I had decent success with the kx drivers. I suspect I would find it useless now
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2014/10/11 17:46:56
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Yes the sound blasters and some on board audio chips had the ability to record "what You hear" I don't think any proper ASIO interface can do this unless it's via a software mixer feature. But it's pretty easy just to patch your outputs back to your inputs. Just make sure to set your monitoring so it doesn't loop back, Don't turn on input echo. What I do now is just go record the "what you hear" on my office computer. Don't care about quality as it's just to listen to a cover tune while learning it. Re installing XP and optimizing the PC for audio is what will save you time in the long run. Make sure and run the DPCLAT test too. http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/11 21:40:32
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There are many services that let you download mp3s or even WAVs of youtube vids. Not sure if that'd improve your workflow, but at least it seems an alternative.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/12 22:35:14
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Sanderxpander
There are many services that let you download mp3s or even WAVs of youtube vids. Not sure if that'd improve your workflow, but at least it seems an alternative.
Really? Can you recommend one? (It's difficult to avoid the malware infested downloads)
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/13 11:36:07
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I use one called the YTD Video Downloader, and it was downloaded from the CNET site: www.downloads.com It is important to note that the software from the CNET site comes in a bundled installer, and all kinds of crap is sneakily presented during the install process, so that unless you are VERY vigilant, you will install some extra crap. I have installed this software many many times, without problems, BUT I read every single screen presented in the install process. For this software, the default install options include you agreeing to install some extra software and to make Chrome your default, etc etc, so you have to do a custom install, and STILL you have to uncheck the boxes for the unwanted extra stuff. Then, it STILL tries to trick you, by presenting a screen asking you to click Next to accept terms, but if you look at the top of the screen, it is for some additional extra software you do NOT want to install, so you have to decline in order to continue on to the actual install of the YTD Video Downloader software. MUCH of the freeware out there these days has install processes such as above. The YTD Video Downloader itself is a fabulous program - you just have to be very vigilant during the install process, and the same is true for ANY freeware you install. Bottom line - be careful with whatever you install. I DO recommend the above software, as long as you pay attention and read ALL before clicking on anything during install. Bob Bone
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/13 12:50:36
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Sculpt7
(Thank you for the clock rate & buffer information!)
I'm still getting dropouts. (It's improved, but still dropouts)
I have a question on using ONLY my PreSonus driver(s):
When I removed my Creative sound card, and tried using Presonus drivers only, I was not able to record audio originating from my PC (let's say from Youtube). So I reinstalled my motherboard sound drivers (Realtek High Definition Audio Ver 5.10.0.5874, Device Manager: Realtek for Audio Devices, Mixer Devices & Line Input Devices). Then I was able to record youtube in Sonar5.
Is it possible to record PC source audio (youtube) with ONLY using my Presonus Firepod & Presonus drivers? If so, what was I doing wrong, or what did I forget?
When I only had the Presonus Firepod and Presonus drivers installed (no Realtek), the only thing connecting my PC (youtube source) to my Firepod is the firewire. I could heard PC/youtube audio coming out of my Firepod (headphones), but no matter what I set in Sonar5, I could not get an audio signal in Sonar5. All the drivers in Sonar5 were set to Presonus, but nothing. There's no "Fire Wire" option (in Sonar drivers list) like there is for Firepod in 1&2, Firepod in S/PDIF L. Sounds like you're telling me it's possible (use presonus ony), so I must be missing something. (Remember, need to avoid feedback.) Can you advise me?
Thank you! Greg
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Most of those 3rd party capture programs for youtube and other streaming services are unecessary, IMO. MOST modern soundcards have options to record what's playing. When you have your presonus connected, click on the "I" (for input) on the audio track and list all of the possible inputs available. on my MOTU, the last set of inputs are called "SENDS", there's one for left, one for right and one for stereo. if I select that input for the audio track, arm the track and click record, it will record whatever is playing currently in the MAINs output of the MOTU. there might or might not be one for the presonus, but check in both WDM and ASIO driver modes because they might have put it in one but not the other. sometimes driver writers do that.
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/13 13:11:48
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Once upon a time, soundblaster cards were not a horrible option for the budget conscious hobbyist. They were certainly an upgrade over built-in in sound. I had decent success with the kx drivers. I suspect I would find it useless now
same here, the kx drivers blew the creative ones out of the water
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Re: Dropouts on Audio Recordin - Sonar5Producer/ASIO4ALLv2.11
2014/10/13 14:28:39
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I sometimes use a site called vid2mp3. I'm sure there are more. Not sure I'd go for free software requiring installation on my computer.
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