The Maillard Reaction
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Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials? You guys were right most of the tutorials are complete sleepers. Are they any fast paced tutorials for guys who already have some sample files set aside and are ready to go? This one seems to be the most get to the point that I have found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOgTeR3B4n8
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 10:25:20
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 11:11:41
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Play them at 3x speed, they be fast paced then.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 11:26:00
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...and then use Mdyne to make the chipmunk sound like Basil Rathbone?
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 11:29:25
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...and then use Mdyne to make the chipmunk sound like Basil Rathbone?
I would use Timeless on the chipmunk.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 11:33:56
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/09/28 12:07:21
I had to check...
...I only have Timeless 2, will that work?
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 12:00:43
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Look out, Mike. You're standing at the edge of a very deep rabbit hole! How far down do you want to go?
When the Groove3 people offered a 30-day free trial, I spent most of that time watching Kontakt vids. They were pretty decent, but there are a lot of them and I found myself dozing off a lot. Creating libraries isn't nearly as much fun as composing with them - it's a little too much like my day job, like work. But those Groove3 videos were pretty alright.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 12:07:15
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Thanks Bit, I hear you. I think I'd rather spend my time playing a real instrument than fooling with Kontakt... but it still seems tempting to try to make a few Kontakt instruments. For example; I've got a 3-1/2 octave, electric Kalimba that needs to be set free some day. The link that Larry sent me too: https://www.askvideo.com/course/kontakt-301-building-sampler-instruments seems to get right to the point. Thanks Larry!
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 12:26:07
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Glad to help Mike...
When I got the 30 days for 99 cents deal I complete like 21 courses,
and had watched over 300 videos....it was the best 99 cents I've spent
this year...and I got a couple of video's for free in the process...
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 15:36:56
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Two internal 2TB SSDs laptop stuffed with Larry's deals and awesome tools. Studio One is the cat's meow as a DAW now that I've migrated off of Sonar. Using BandLab Cakewalk just to grab old files when migrating songs.
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 15:45:26
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Thanks Lawajava,
That was the video I was watching this morning that made me write the original post/inquiry.
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 20:14:15
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MAN you aren't kidding. I could only take about 2 minutes of that turtle talk.
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 22:05:49
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I have the same issue...if you can't hold my attention during the first few minutes
I'm done...that simple...
Many of the Groove 3 videos do that to me....they just don't keep me
interested...
Surprisingly the AskVideo (MacPro) videos did, for the most part, keep me
interested. While some parts were boring, I found myself "wanting" to finish.
So hats off to them...I'm a hard nut to crack...emphasis on the "nut".
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 22:18:24
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The video you previously linked to gave enough information to add a couple octaves to that kalimba. Just drag the top and bottom notes out in the mapping editor and save.
It only starts getting complicated when you next want to add round-robins and multiple velocity layers and keyswitches and legato modes and multiple articulations. Unfortunately, it's a kind of a natural progression to want to do that stuff as soon as you've made your first instrument. Before you know it, you're having conversations with EvilDragon about the maximum number of buttons on a panel.
If that happens, I recommend a quick trip to the Coffee House or a few back-to-back episodes of Wheel of Fortune to calm your nerd-brain.
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/28 22:24:35
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Groove3 tutorial. Do the first one on Kontakt the follow up video on Kontakt 5 sucks. Ta.
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/29 00:58:00
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Mike - not the same guy or the same video you referred to.
You might say the one I mentioned is slow, it might be, but it's very helpful. He goes through a lot of the stuff that could be overlooked that really enable it to work right. Definitely not related to the link you mentioned in your original post.
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/29 00:58:12
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/29 00:58:18
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/29 08:10:21
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lawajava
Mike - not the same guy or the same video you referred to...
...Definitely not related to the link you mentioned in your original post.
Let me emphasize that my thanks for your suggestion is sincere. I saw that 44 min video you linked to first, but the link I placed in my OP was an example of a video I thought was paced a little faster. I don't want to belabor the point or seem unappreciative but the 44 min guy lost me when he started explaining how to record samples. I didn't post a link to a video I wasn't going to sit through, I posted a link to one that I might. That doesn't mean that I don't appreciate your having taken the time to offer a suggestion. I appreciate you doing so, and someone else may see your link and find that it suits their interest perfectly. I want to jump in someplace where it is assumed I already know how to assemble a collection of samples. The videos Larry linked to seemed even more straightforward than the example I posted a link too.
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/29 08:15:42
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The video you previously linked to gave enough information to add a couple octaves to that kalimba. Just drag the top and bottom notes out in the mapping editor and save.
It only starts getting complicated when you next want to add round-robins and multiple velocity layers and keyswitches and legato modes and multiple articulations. Unfortunately, it's a kind of a natural progression to want to do that stuff as soon as you've made your first instrument. Before you know it, you're having conversations with EvilDragon about the maximum number of buttons on a panel.
If that happens, I recommend a quick trip to the Coffee House or a few back-to-back episodes of Wheel of Fortune to calm your nerd-brain.
Thanks Bit, The videos helped. I didn't realize how easy it is to get started. My previous sample experiments were with .sfz and text edit mapping etc. No round robin for me. :-) I think randomization is the bane of MIDI. I am definitely interested in velocity layers. My Session Drummer 2 drum kit had approximately 20 layers per key.
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/29 14:10:44
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Velocity layers are just as easy. Just stack the samples in the map editor and use the mouse to shrink them to just the velocities you want to trigger them, taking care to avoid overlaps and gaps. You may also want to tweak loudness, perhaps adding a dB to each successive layer so they play louder as you hit the keys harder.
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/09/29 16:49:55
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Velocity layers are just as easy. Just stack the samples in the map editor and use the mouse to shrink them to just the velocities you want to trigger them, taking care to avoid overlaps and gaps. You may also want to tweak loudness, perhaps adding a dB to each successive layer so they play louder as you hit the keys harder.
And to top it off, check out Advanced Expression Technology. This is a brilliant feature that can turn so-so velocity layers into completely convincing ones. It may look complicated at first glance but it's actually quite simple to set up.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/10/20 09:08:00
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I'm thinking of trying to make a keys set, and planning to buy a download to the Kontakt 301 course .
I'm asking here to see if I can get a head start: If I were to record a series of notes on a keyboard, what time duration would be useful for the first try?
I ask this because I am thinking about playing the keys through one of my amplifiers and capturing the spring reverb.
Is there any general approach, say for example using the length of an 1/8th note at some particular bpm that is effective? Something like that maybe?
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/10/20 10:02:10
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Well I just learned that when Ask Video sells you a "download" what they really sell you is a proprietary download player... you don't get to freely download the video content and store it where you wish.
I just bought a download of all the videos in Kontakt 301, but what I really bought was a download of a proprietary player. It felt like bait and switch. I went ahead and used a download tool to get my downloads as .mp4. The server shut my account down for downloading the videos that I purchased a "download" for.
I'll find another company to do business with.
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/10/20 16:28:48
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I'll find another company to do business with.
How did you pay? Sounds like this company is engaging in false advertising. If it was a credit card, you could legitimately request that the charge be backed out. I'm not sure how Paypal works, because I've never encountered a problem situation when paying with Paypal (knock on wood!!!).
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Are there any fast paced Kontakt instrument construction tutorials?
2014/10/20 17:46:25
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I used PayPal.
I did eventually get the videos I paid for, after writing to them and having them restore my access, so I don't want to seek a refund. They are very good videos.
I just don't like the way the company, ASK Video, advertises the ability to download for offline use and only explains the details and gotchas after you make your payment.
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