The Maillard Reaction
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Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. How can it be worth that much money? I keep thinking I want it for the occasional clean up job, but I have a hard time justifying spending so much money for the infrequent use I expect I will make of it? What does Izotope RX 4 Advanced do that is so special?
post edited by mike_mccue - 2014/10/03 08:47:10
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/03 11:42:04
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More of a case of what it can't do. It doesn't make the tea or coffee....... but it can be used to remove just about anything from audio. Clicks, thumps, crackles, reverb, etc etc., Isolate audio, split out mid and side channels, etc. etc., time and pitch stretch, recording, mastering. Chances are if there's something you want to do to a piece of audio it can do it. I don't use it a huge amount and have only really learnt a small proportion of what it is capable of. It's like R-mix on steroids, only mega-steroids. Much of it automated to make life a little easier. Yes other programs can do similar stuff but it might mean more than one program. It's all in one place in here and arguably easier/better at it. Whether it's worth that sort of money is in the eye of the beholder though.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/03 12:55:25
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I have a client who has some music that exists on LPs, the master tapes disappeared down in the Caribbean. Maybe I can justify it for cleaning up some of their legacy audio.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/03 13:23:03
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RX4 is fine for most cleanup audio fix jobs. RX4 Advanced has the dereverb support when cleaning up audio that has baked reverb RX4 Advanced can clean that up. RX Advanced also has the Time & Pitch module that RX4 doesn't have. Big studios or TV stations use RX Advanced features for audio editing / manipulations / cleanup. that is where the Loudness module, EQ matching etc modules of Advanced come into play. with regular RX4 you can cleanup a lot but then would need other tools to finish off the job that Advanced can do all in one product with automation a lot of the time. is Advanced worth it? not for my needs, I use RX3 and now RX4 once in a blue moon. When I need it it's there and easy to get the job done quickly. before getting RX3 and now RX4 I had to use a lot of different technics or tools to get the job done. POPs, clicks, hiss especially in digitized tape or LP recordings or bad radio tuning recordings are cleaned up pretty quickly with RX4.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/03 20:53:02
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I think Advanced is pretty specialized and would only be worth it in very specific cases. If you have a bad recording for a current project the best option is still to redo the recording. Dereverb is a nice option and Advanced also comes with a really nice metering suite.
But the regular RX3/4 comes with a bunch of great "standard" denoising plugins plus the very powerful spectral editor for detailed editing. I honestly think it has the meat of the RX product line. The extra money is because those other plugs are quite unique and people who have to fix audio on a daily basis need them.
FWIW last spring I tried denoising some almost unintelligible family tapes and spent half a day fidgeting with gates and with Waves Denoising Suite. Ten minutes with RX3 standard gave me a great and eminently usable result. And I really mean ten minutes, that includes learning where the buttons were.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/05 19:44:41
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We use regular RX at the studio for most all our forensic and restoration work. If I had any sense (and the geetus) I'd have Advanced. But for most stuff any musical hobbiest is likely to need or want...Advanced is overkill.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/07 18:26:22
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I use RX all the time, but mainly because it's a lot easier to see audio events in their spectrum display than it is in other tools (like WaveLab). I use it (the standalone application) to place markers at events/transitions in live recordings so I know what I need to extract in later steps. Occasionally, I'll also use it for what it was designed for, like removing pops and feedback and the like. I'll have to admit that the new RX Document format they introduced in RX4 is a pain in the @$$ (at least for my workflow). It means I have to export the result as a wav file rather than just saving the stupid thing. ...and...NO...I can't see spending $1,200 for the Advanced version just to remove reverb.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/07 18:38:05
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Sounds like maybe it would be useful for forensics. But that's not a very big market to amortize the r&d costs.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/07 19:17:43
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Anderton Sounds like maybe it would be useful for forensics. But that's not a very big market to amortize the r&d costs.
That may well be the point. The more vertical the market...the higher the cost per seat to recoup your development costs. For the basic version though...$350 is well worth it. I first got into it because the venue I got my recordings from had massive ground hum issues. That finally got solved, but the existing recordings still needed to be made listenable. Once the tool was in house though, I wondered how I did anything without it.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/07 19:22:23
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I have a lot of old recordings where the kick and snare are way too loud. Would the regular RX4 work for that scenario?
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/07 19:25:59
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Thanks for sharing your experiences Bill.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/07 19:35:11
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mike_mccue Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. How can it be worth that much money? I keep thinking I want it for the occasional clean up job, but I have a hard time justifying spending so much money for the infrequent use I expect I will make of it? What does Izotope RX 4 Advanced do that is so special
It will drain your bank account if you buy it.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/07 21:51:50
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Just some ridiculous suggestions.
If you have the original drum track you could try putting it out of phase and wipe the drums.
Long shot, if it's a synth and you have the original samples or synth you could try triggering the drum samples on the track, reverse the phase and see if wipes them. You may need to bounce down and do some offsetting.
You would need to be careful with volume levels.
You can then add new drum sounds with a trigger from the old track.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/07 22:01:39
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mike_mccue Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. How can it be worth that much money? I keep thinking I want it for the occasional clean up job, but I have a hard time justifying spending so much money for the infrequent use I expect I will make of it? What does Izotope RX 4 Advanced do that is so special
It will drain your bank account if you buy it.
I think that iZotope is aiming it at restorationists, forensic analysts, obsessive audio software purchasers and people who can afford a Rolex - with this being their bread & butter application. Theys just*gotsta* pay! For the rest of us, the economic value of the additional features just isn't apparent.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/07 23:47:42
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Again...if you make your money doing audio forensics, restoration and repair then Advanced is both worth every penny AND tax deductable. If not...you don't need it.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/08 01:48:40
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yorolpal Again...if you make your money doing audio forensics, restoration and repair then Advanced is both worth every penny AND tax deductable. If not...you don't need it.
Better said than I.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/08 14:51:31
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☄ Helpfulby bluzdog 2014/10/08 15:44:03
CakeAlexS Just some ridiculous suggestions.
If you have the original drum track you could try putting it out of phase and wipe the drums.
Long shot, if it's a synth and you have the original samples or synth you could try triggering the drum samples on the track, reverse the phase and see if wipes them. You may need to bounce down and do some offsetting.
You would need to be careful with volume levels.
You can then add new drum sounds with a trigger from the old track.
Thanks for that, but that's not going to work for me, but it did give me a great idea. I took a 20 second part from the wav, imported it in Sonar, and opened Melodyne in polyphonic mode. I was able to locate the snare. I clicked on one snare hit, and then selected all the same notes in the drop down window. With all the snare notes highlighted, I selected the amplitude tool, and brought the snare hits down. That worked, but I figured out, it was the snare sound itself that I hated, so I brought the snare hits down way low, and I'm fooling around with replacing the snare.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/08 15:43:06
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Maurice_Pleazee
CakeAlexS Just some ridiculous suggestions.
If you have the original drum track you could try putting it out of phase and wipe the drums.
Long shot, if it's a synth and you have the original samples or synth you could try triggering the drum samples on the track, reverse the phase and see if wipes them. You may need to bounce down and do some offsetting.
You would need to be careful with volume levels.
You can then add new drum sounds with a trigger from the old track.
Thanks for that, but that's not going to work for me, but it did give me a great idea. I took a 20 second part from the wav, imported it in Sonar, and opened Melodyne in polyphonic mode. I was able to locate the snare. I clicked on one snare hit, and then selected all the same notes in the drop down window. With all the snare notes highlighted, I selected the amplitude tool, and brought the snare hits down. That worked, but I figured out, it was the snare sound itself that I hated, so I brought the snare hits down way low, and I'm fooling around with replacing the snare.
Brilliant.........That sounds like a great work flow for removing snare and kick from drum overheads when using drum replacement i.e. Slate Digital Trigger. I must be gonna try it out!! Thanks. Rocky
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/08 16:14:19
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This is getting o.t. but you could copy the selected snare notes to create a separate snare track and use that to trigger samples or even delete everything but the selected snare notes. Rocky
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/08 16:26:46
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bluzdog This is getting o.t. but you could copy the selected snare notes to create a separate snare track and use that to trigger samples or even delete everything but the selected snare notes. Rocky
I'll try that. Thanks
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/08 21:49:04
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FastBikerBoy It's all in one place in here and arguably easier/better at it. Whether it's worth that sort of money is in the eye of the beholder though.
Spoken like a guy who has fully functional non-expiring free eval copy.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/09 03:45:07
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FastBikerBoy It's all in one place in here and arguably easier/better at it. Whether it's worth that sort of money is in the eye of the beholder though.
Spoken like a guy who has fully functional non-expiring free eval copy.
I suspect that those sort of things only go to people who might have done some work for them, perhaps say on promotional stuff or the like, not little ol' me. I just have more money than sense.
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/09 07:39:38
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Noise reduction might be useful if you make a lot of motorcycle videos. I've done interviews in the pits at Daytona during NASCAR races... ...send that stuff straight to the CEDAR box. ;-)
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Re: Izotope RX 4 Advanced costs $1199.00. What does RX do that is so special?
2014/10/09 10:33:03
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That's not a bad idea Mike. I do produce quite a lot of onboard videos and the wind noise on those is horrendous. I might have a go at filtering out the wind from the exhaust note. That should keep me entertained for a while.
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