Pick Tracks menu in PRV

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2014/10/06 19:09:46 (permalink)
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Pick Tracks menu in PRV

In any menu, all you want to see are the items you might ever wish to select and not have to sift and scroll through a long list that includes stuff you will never need. However, the selection menu in the the "Pick Tracks" dialog box in Piano Roll View (and in Staff View too) lists every track in the project, including audio tracks and synth tracks. Surely this can't be intentional. All anyone ever needs to select to view in PRV are a MIDI tracks and SI tracks. Although it is possible to place MIDI clips into audio tracks, they don't actually function there, so there would be no reason to edit them there. In a large project it often takes longer than necessary to find the required midi track, especially if you are trying to make a muliple selection. It would therefore make life easier if the irrelevant types of track (i.e. audio & synth) could be filtered out from the list.

I'm guessing that this should be an easy one for the programmers.

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    perfectprint
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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2014/10/07 03:33:09 (permalink)
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    the track column on the right could use an overhaul. its entire functionality is hidden behind a Tracks > Pick Tracks... selection sequence.  Having all MIDI tracks displayed by default would make better sense as it becomes immediately functional.
     
     


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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2014/10/07 04:21:35 (permalink)
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    ...Having all MIDI tracks displayed by default would make better sense as it becomes immediately functional...



    If a project has only 3 MIDI tracks like your screenshot, then yes I would probably like to display them all together in a single PRV. However, most of my projects contain dozens of them. It would be too confusing and I would spend too much time scrolling in the right pane.

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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2014/10/07 10:09:35 (permalink)
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    A Track Manager for PRV, filtered for MIDI?
     

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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2014/10/07 12:19:12 (permalink)
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    but are you not scrolling anyhow in the Pick Tracks box, even if it were filtered for MIDI only? The PRV track pane contains 25% more info than the Pick Tracks box does by default. 
     
    the PRV track pane would need an exclusive solo to be properly functional - like I said it could do with an overhaul to introduce some more default functionality. Limiting the height of each track could be one improvement then - same with track view!!! 

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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2014/10/07 13:00:08 (permalink)
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    I kinda like both features the way they are.

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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2014/10/07 21:27:01 (permalink)
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    perfectprint
    the track column on the right could use an overhaul. its entire functionality is hidden behind a Tracks > Pick Tracks... selection sequence.  Having all MIDI tracks displayed by default would make better sense as it becomes immediately functional.
     
     



    Have you cake and eat it. You could have the setting in preferences and choose this or current behaviour as the default setting. Most of what I see here could be optional under preferences.

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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2014/10/08 21:56:36 (permalink)
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    It's too bad you can't save your visible selections in your projects.
     
    Currently, if you unselect one of the midi tracks above using the 'notes' button and save your project when you reopen it will be selected again. (visible)
     
    I find this a royal pain when I have several midi tracks open but only one visible to edit. I save the project in hopes of coming back to where I left off only to find ALL the tracks visible again.
     
    Surely this on/off thing could be saved within a project...

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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2014/10/17 10:27:23 (permalink)
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    I find this a royal pain when I have several midi tracks open but only one visible to edit. I save the project in hopes of coming back to where I left off only to find ALL the tracks visible again.
     
    I agree it would be nice if the specific view was saved but a workaround in the meantime is to save as with what you were working on last (ie bass @ m 30)...you may already do this but just thought I'd throw it out there.

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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2015/01/22 11:48:21 (permalink)
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    Well.... there are times when I like having an audio or synth track in the PRV. Usually to have quick access to soloing/muting them when working on an associated midi track.
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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2015/01/22 12:45:34 (permalink)
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    I often have projects with about 30 up to 100 midi/instrument tracks. So my wishes in this area are more flexibility in the selection and deselection process of tracks to edit in pvr.
     
    Yes, it makes no sense to give us the choice of audiortracks in the track selection of pvr. Only midi or instrument tracks should be listed.
     
    I would like to have a flexible bar on the right or left of the pvr to show me a searchable list of available midi based tracks with an easy selection and deselection option.
     
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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2015/01/23 16:49:21 (permalink)
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    ...there are times when I like having an audio or synth track in the PRV. Usually to have quick access to soloing/muting them when working on an associated midi track.

     
    I guess that this is useful if you are working with limited screen area, e.g. a laptop. It does seem like a workaround though. Maybe a separate window that displays Solo/Mute buttons for a selection of tracks would be a good new feature. If anybody wants to run with this idea, please post in a new thread.
     
    EDIT:
    I took up my own challenge and posted a new feature proposal: Solo/Mute View
    EDIT AGAIN:
    This doesn't seem to have attracted much interest.
    post edited by Kev999 - 2015/01/25 19:20:12

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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2015/01/23 19:09:28 (permalink)
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    A minimal change would be for the "Pick Track" picklist to only include actual MIDI tracks. You could even call this a bug.
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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2015/01/23 21:51:47 (permalink)
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    It's too bad you can't save your visible selections in your projects.
     
    Currently, if you unselect one of the midi tracks above using the 'notes' button and save your project when you reopen it will be selected again. (visible)
     
    I find this a royal pain when I have several midi tracks open but only one visible to edit. I save the project in hopes of coming back to where I left off only to find ALL the tracks visible again.
     
    Surely this on/off thing could be saved within a project...


     
    Actually, that's a bug and it's confirmed by CW.
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Status-of-PRVs-note-button-not-remembered-with-projectscreenset-Confirmed-by-CW-m3022397.aspx
     

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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2015/01/23 22:06:45 (permalink)
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    Here is a case/ticket that was created on 2/5/2014:
     
    http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Contact/Problem-Report-Status.aspx?ID=23924&User=rtucker55%40hotmail.com
     
    Apparently it was either missed or not possible to correct. Either way I am really disappointed as this was a big deal to me and I was sure they would have it fixed a year later.

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    Re: Pick Tracks menu in PRV 2015/02/02 19:47:58 (permalink)
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    Hi-
     
    I personally only want to see the tracks I can edit in the PRV listed in "Pick Tracks" but since some folks want other track types visible there, maybe they could just use the same "Track Manager" dialog they use for the TV and CV.  At least that has the icons indicating track type. 
     
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