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Can undocked console view not be always on top? - Solved

Hi Guys,
 
I'm setting up X3e on a new computer.  I want my undocked console view to go behind the undocked track view when selecting the track view.  I can't figure out how to make this happen.
 
Currently, I have to collapse the console view to see the track view.  I want the views to behave like windows would in windows XP or 7 and I can't figure it out.  I know it's got to be something simple...
 
Thanks in advance,
 
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post edited by Ian Ferrin - 2014/10/08 05:58:01

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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 04:54:57 (permalink)
    Use your screen sets to set up one for your CV and TV, then just toggle using the number keys,
    Or Put CV in multidock and float in, maximise window, maximise and minimise the Multidock with D
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 07:03:05 (permalink)
    Thanks Freex.  That's actually a great keyboard command I didn't know.  That might very well end up being my first option.
     
    However, on my old computer I had the views windows behaving like regular windows windows.  So I know it can be done.  I just don't remember how I set it up...
     
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 07:34:50 (permalink)
    ctrl-tab not working? that's the standard windows key-combo for iterating through open child windows, works in 8.5.x but i don't have an x-version installed to check that

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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 08:53:56 (permalink)
    I thought it was ALT + Tab - that's what I use to switch between Word and Chrome and Notepad or whatever is open.
     
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 10:01:05 (permalink)
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    I thought it was ALT + Tab - that's what I use to switch between Word and Chrome and Notepad or whatever is open.
     
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    alt-tab is for switching between apps/parent windows bob ;-)

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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 10:13:15 (permalink)
    I usually keep it docked and use a combination of "D" and "SHIFT-D". To do what I believe you want
    1. undock the console view
    2. click the icon in the upper left of the floating console and select "Disable Floating"
    3. maximize the console or track view inside SONAR
    4. toggle between the views using ALT-1 and ALT-2
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 14:31:38 (permalink)
    None of those suggestions work although I'm happy knowing the 'd' and 'shift-d' commands.  Probably better than the views-as-windows that I used to use.
     
    I think the solution might be a cakewalk ini command, although  I have no idea what the actual command might be.
     
    Thanks much guys,
     
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 21:49:29 (permalink)
    Hey Ian . . . As lawp says above -  (I'm on Windows 7) and I've always used the Ctrl-TAB windows key command to toggle between Track View and Console View . . . works great, so I've never needed to buy that second monitor.
     
    I prefer to leave my multidock (with "D" key command) for popping between soft synths, staff view and PRV view.
    I think the trick is to have all the windows "half maximized" if that makes any sense ?
    Wish I could figure out a screen shot here, but basically both Track View and Console View fill the whole screen, with the window control (top right) in the restore position.
     
    Also, on my system Ctrl-F6 does the same thing.
    Another option would be to use the Sonar screensets feature to toggle between.

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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 22:28:41 (permalink)
    I use screen sets

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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 23:09:11 (permalink)
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    As lawp says above -  (I'm on Windows 7) and I've always used the Ctrl-TAB windows key command to toggle between Track View and Console View . . . works great,


    Doesn't work on my install.  Console view stays on top.  Always.  Aargh!
     
    My old computer had X3 installed on previous installs of X1 and before that 8.5.  I kept the previous settings on each install, so I'm wondering if the windows behavior I liked was actually something that came from X1 or 8.5?  Still there's gotta be a way of reinstituting in in X3?
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/07 23:32:34 (permalink)
    Hi Ian . . . I have this saved as part of my "Normal" template, so it always comes up working like I want.
     
    If I load another template where it is not set up (eg. 16 track audio template), the way I can get it to work is by first undocking everything, get both TV and CV windows into the maximized position, then click top left of console window - and select "disable floating", then maximize CV again, then the key command Ctrl-TAB works.
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/08 00:11:21 (permalink)
    noynekker - I've got everything undocked.  If I'm reading you correctly this is the icon I should click on to select "disable floating".  Problem is, "disable floating" isn't there.
     

     
    Thanks for trying to help me thru this!
     
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/08 00:14:57 (permalink)
    The picture shows the console in the multidock. Undock the console by right-clicking on the console tab and selecting undock or click-drag the console tab out of the multidock (step one in my instructions above). This will float the console. The floating console will have an icon in the upper left.
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/08 00:23:52 (permalink)
    You may have confused undocking the multidock with undocking the console view from the mutlidock. There is no need to undock the mutlidock.
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/08 01:00:53 (permalink)
    When you click the icon top left of an undocked window you don't see "disable floating" ?  hmmm
    The icon in your screenshot does look different that mine.
    Mine is the same as in the Sonar PDF manual (page 1147) . . . so I've no idea why you wouldn't see it.
    Anyone else ?
     
    Edit . . . yes I think scook has it, above, undock the console from the multidock

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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/08 01:55:22 (permalink)
    Thanks guys,
     
    Yeah, I don't have that little colorful icon from p1147- couldn't get it to show up on a new project either.
     
    scook - With EVERYTHING floating this is what I have.
     

     
    All the views are floating but the Console view still says multidock.  I'm getting the vibe that Sonar may not have installed properly? --- Weird.

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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/08 02:09:11 (permalink)
    Everything looks fine in all the illustrations. There is nothing wrong with the installation. You are still floating the multidock. Don't float the multidock, float the console view.
    1. Dock the mutlidock back to the top or bottom of the main screen
    2. Right-click the console tab. In the pictures, the tab says "Console" with an X to the right.
    3. Select undock in the console tab options. This creates a floating console. This is not the same as clicking the down arrow on the bottom right of the multidock (this floats the multidock).
    4. The floating console has the icon you are looking for.
    post edited by scook - 2014/10/08 02:15:54
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/08 02:27:22 (permalink)
    To see how to undock the console view from the multidock look at the "X2 Multidock" video around 2:22. The video shows how to click a tab and undock a view from the multidock. The video is here http://www.cakewalk.com/CakeTV/SONAR-University/Get-Started
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/08 05:54:02 (permalink)
    That works.  Wow - and what's really weird is that when I undock the console view, it's floating. Kinda confusing if you ask me.   But it works.   Thanks .  You talked me thru it.  Thanks so much!
     
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/08 10:03:26 (permalink)
    IF I remember right the console view is the first thing in my dock.  You have to add another docked item before you can "float" the console view.  However, I always leave the console docked, so I'm not sure about that.
     
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    Re: Can undocked console view not be always on top? 2014/10/08 10:35:40 (permalink)
    When I was testing the solution, only the console view was in the mutlidock. There is no requirement for a second docked view. A single view can be undocked from the multidock.
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