Bluegrasser
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What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
When I installed X3 I left X2 on my DAW. VC-64 was therefore still available. When I installed X3 only on my notebook without previously installing X2 VC-64 is not available. What is the X3 only replacement for VC-64? I used to use the Master Mix preset.
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FastBikerBoy
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/08 21:32:23
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There isn't a direct replacement as such.
You can do a custom install of a previous version that does include it though and it will then be available to you.
Just select "custom" when installing and deselect everything except the VC64.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/08 21:53:37
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I found the BT Brickwall BW2S with a Fast Release Mastering preset that seems to be pretty close, but it looks like I will need to reinstall X2.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/08 22:05:24
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SONAR comes with quite a few compressors and EQs which could be used to produce a similar effect chain. The Master Mix preset signal flow is: - An EQ used as a high pass filter, roll off at 40Hz
- An EQ with a low and high shelf, boost at around 100 and 10K
- A compressor set to 1.48:1 with a 100ms attack and 2000ms release
- A compressor set to 4:1 with a .1ms attack and 225ms release
The two EQs could be folded into one Quad Curve instance or try the Quad Curve for #1 and the BT PEQ2B for #2 The PC4K S-Type Bus Compress may be a good choice for compressor #3 The BT Brickwall might be a good choice for #4
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/08 22:12:04
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What I'd like to see is something to replace the VC-64's parallel signal path options.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/08 22:28:28
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I would think a signal splitter in the ProChannel could go a long way to that goal
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/08 22:29:20
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But this is a topic for a different thread in another forum
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/09 02:54:37
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Bluegrasser I found the BT Brickwall BW2S with a Fast Release Mastering preset that seems to be pretty close, but it looks like I will need to reinstall X2.
To be clear, you do not need to install X2. Just run the X2 installer, select 'custom installation' and only install VC64.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/09 03:57:54
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I still have the HD w/ the old version of 8.5 and S1 installed. I'm wondering if just copying the dll of VC-64 to the new system is enough to install it? If not, are there other files or registry hacks that could enable it? I never used VC-64 that much, but I did use it occasionally, and it'd be nice to have it on the new system. IMO, it's especially nice for quick placement of lesser instruments in a busy mix.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/09 04:09:30
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Ian, in the VST settings in X3 add the path to where you stored the VSTs in 8.5 and/or X1. Then do a rescan. You'll get everything you had previously installed. Use the editor to sort them and remove/hide the ones you don't want. For future reference, it is common practice to always load VSTs to the same path on your system, so when you install X4 or X5 you give it the same old path you've always used and it picks up all your old VSTs automagically. If you uninstalled 8.5 by removing the HDD, as I think you implied, your best option would be to run the 8.5 or X1 installer in "custom install" mode and select all the VSTs and VSTIs you want to add to X3.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/09 04:09:46
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I have no idea, some VSTs will work just by placing the dll, some others don't. I guess it depends on whether it was tied to the older Sonar installs or not. One way to find out though........
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/09 05:22:52
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Karyn Ian, in the VST settings in X3 add the path to where you stored the VSTs in 8.5 and/or X1. Then do a rescan. You'll get everything you had previously installed. Use the editor to sort them and remove/hide the ones you don't want. For future reference, it is common practice to always load VSTs to the same path on your system, so when you install X4 or X5 you give it the same old path you've always used and it picks up all your old VSTs automagically. If you uninstalled 8.5 by removing the HDD, as I think you implied, your best option would be to run the 8.5 or X1 installer in "custom install" mode and select all the VSTs and VSTIs you want to add to X3.
I have a clean install of X3 on a clean install of Windows 7. My question is whether copying the .dll from my old hard drive is enough for this particualr plugin. Peace, Ian
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/09 05:25:31
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As Karl said above, it depends on the DLL. Some you can simply drag/drop others need to be properly registered in Windows, hence the easiest way is to run the installer.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/09 13:39:44
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I would also go with a custom install of X2 if you liked that plugin. The closest in X3 is probably the BT Analog Trackbox with its multi-functional architecture but it misses a lot of specific features.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/11 04:43:36
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Bluegrasser, if you can, copy VC64 from your computer to your laptop.... The VC folder is on your drive @ Program Files, Cakewalk, Vst Plugins, Vintage Channel normally. When you copied it to laptop, let Sonar rescan VST's (Preferences menu) and you should have it again.. good luck
post edited by Wouter Schijns - 2014/10/11 04:50:45
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/11 05:23:42
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Anderton What I'd like to see is something to replace the VC-64's parallel signal path options.
As a matter of interest, why is VC-64 no longer included in Sonar X3 or as a separate purchase?
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/11 06:19:47
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Tshepo#2
Anderton What I'd like to see is something to replace the VC-64's parallel signal path options.
As a matter of interest, why is VC-64 no longer included in Sonar X3 or as a separate purchase?
It's come up before. The owner of the product is nowhere to be found and thus unable to be further developed or properly supported. Not sure what the original licensing deal was, but good chance it may have expired.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/11 07:28:06
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One of the better features of the V64 was it's ability to change the order of the components within itself.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/11 09:06:10
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sstteerreeoo ffllllaanngge
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/11 09:44:36
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lawp Pro channel anyone?
You are correct. The PC will get the job done. And do it well. But there is something about the V64...is......IDK......nice! Best word I could come up with.
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/11 10:21:54
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I think ddmf metaplug can do parallel processing stuff
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Re: What is the X3 replacement for VC-64
2014/10/11 11:38:09
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dubdisciple
Tshepo#2
Anderton What I'd like to see is something to replace the VC-64's parallel signal path options.
As a matter of interest, why is VC-64 no longer included in Sonar X3 or as a separate purchase?
It's come up before. The owner of the product is nowhere to be found and thus unable to be further developed or properly supported. Not sure what the original licensing deal was, but good chance it may have expired.
Not finding him also means it's not possible to purchase the rights.
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