kakku
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New tune
I got a new tune readyish, though I have a problem with the chorus again. Comments welcome. I used the so called 'pop progression' chords in the chorus parts. I have deleted the original version so there is the link to the other version here: https://soundcloud.com/madrigal7/popkakku
post edited by kakku - 2014/10/16 15:09:13
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Lynn
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This tune has a nice, open sound that is balanced and well panned. I can hear the low end very well, and overall the mix is smooooth. When you say that you are using "pop progression" chords, does that mean you're not writing this song yourself? BIAB? If so, I would recommend that you take a stab at it yourself. It's one thing to have good mixing skills, but quite another thing to have good writing skills. Keep us posted.
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kakku
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Thank you for your nice comments Lynn. By saying I used 'pop progression' chords I meant that I used one very common pop song chord progression ( Am–F–C–G) in the chorus. kakku
post edited by kakku - 2014/10/10 03:31:47
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Nice melody. The style reminds me of something you could find on a Yanni album. It's very well put together. The drums seem very small and rather generic. You should consider programming them yourself to get a more "live" feel. Otherwise, I think this sounds pretty good!
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kakku
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Thank you for your nice words Dan. I always use a simple drum sample and it is not a good way of doing things. You are right that I should try doing drum programming on my tunes. kakku
post edited by kakku - 2014/10/10 03:33:01
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Nice arrangement and mix. I like the way you brought all the parts together.The drums and acoustic strums don't have that live feel but still fit and deliver IMO. A more live feel would be an improvement :) Good job.
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kakku
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Thank you for your nice comments Starise. You are right also. The strums come from Halion Sonic and could be more natural. The drums is just one sample I often have used. Drums is one area I should try work harder. I'm a bit lazy when I build songs and I like to do things fast and easy though sometimes I do more work.
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There seems to be this idea that timing must be perfect and I'm sometimes lacking in that department. But if it's too perfect it's unatural...there seems to be a happy medium. Too perfect is mechanical, too far off and it's sloppy timing....see we can't win :) The techno guys never need to worry about that. Everything can be rigid and that makes great techno music. Somthing that's supposed to sound natural and live though seldom gets away with it :)
Perfect electronic drum kits add "swing"...they intentionally *** up the timing...go figure. A human needs to screw up a robot in order to make lively music.
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kakku
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Right again Starise. Too perfect timing is not usually good. My timing is pretty sloppy so I have to fix played stuff afterwards. I seem to like my stuff perfect timing wise so my tunes sounds bit robotic. kakku
post edited by kakku - 2014/10/11 01:49:43
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Good one, Kakku. I thought it sounds really good but it sounds a bit "far away". Wow, don't ask me to explain that! The bass is there, drums could be a bit more up in the mix (my preference) but tomorrow morning it will sound different to me. I'll try again then. One of Michael's(Spacey)posts on our Taxman thread really addressed the timing issue. I think it was really good. I didn't really notice any timing issues here. Did I read that wrong?
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kakku
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Thank you for your nice comments evadianepug. I have problems with mixing. I don't quite hear what sounds balanced. Drums I can put louder. I just noticed that I had made a typo. I meant that my timing is pretty sloppy so I have to fix played stuff afterwards and I don't put any swing to my music. I should try to humanize my stuff. kakku
post edited by kakku - 2014/10/11 03:47:19
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Nothing I can add from what's been given above thanks for sharing.
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kakku
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Thank you for your nice comment Wookie and you're welcome.
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Thanks to your tips guys, I have (hopefully) improved my track. The mix is, I think, more balanced and I changed the drum sample with the SI-drum kit. I made also some small melody changes, but I'm not sure if they are noticeable. Again, comments welcome. kakku https://soundcloud.com/madrigal7/pop Here is yet another version. I put the backing instruments bit louder in the mix. Otherwise identical with the earlier version. kakku https://soundcloud.com/madrigal7/popper-3
post edited by kakku - 2014/10/13 12:18:57
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i just listened to the last version, and agree with the above that it's a nicely done tune. The mix is a bit "distant" as Warren mentioned, but I think that's something to work with over time. The more important thing IMHO is to have something to work with in the first place. 
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kakku
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Thank you stevec for your nice comment. I hope I will be able to make 'closer' mixes in the future. I'm soon putting a new tune online and I think, atm, that it has a bit better chorus. Thanks again guys for your help with my tunes.
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I like this - not typically the kind of thing I would listen to - but this kept my interest - nice mix - good playing.
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