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2014/10/16 21:00:28 (permalink)

Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!!

Isn't it about that time of the year when the "Bakers" start announcing Sonar X4?  I am awaiting with my CC in hand to press those buttons and yeii, BUY BUY BUY!!!! 
 
I am still on X2 and I want to graduate to X4.
 
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/16 21:36:34 (permalink)
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/16 22:37:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/10/17 09:25:55
... for a while....
 
The good new is if you want to buy now... you will also probably want to buy later...
 

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/16 23:21:45 (permalink)
/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ 
 
Alex, with your new avatar , you  look so wise …..btw….i do agree w you ...
last year I picked up X3 the day after my B Day ….. this year … I wanted to get X4 as a B day gift to myself...
oh well , I'm gonna get it when I can ….then I'm gonna go to court and file a petition to change my B Day 
 
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/16 23:35:20 (permalink)
I like to skip a few versions.. I hate new releases as it fill the forum with babble for a few months.. 

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 03:12:14 (permalink)
Outsourcing requirements for the "X4 Hover Car" have not yet been met... protective screens over the intakes were a "slight oversight" that was uncovered when the prototype swallowed a seagull during flight testing....
 
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 08:15:21 (permalink)
Mettelus   Very funny..
 
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 08:20:54 (permalink)
I would a ProChannel bus for master with a lot of new plugs like GML ,AVALON,MASELEC,MILLENNIA MEDIA.....
Yes......i'm dreaming

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 08:21:52 (permalink)
Alex,
 
You are correct, however, the only problem is that I have the money now and may not have it later.  The closer it gets to Christmas the more broke I become because I've started buying Christmas gifts and I want to buy a Christmas gift for myself.  Once I've spent my allotted money for Christmas, I put myself on a budget so I can catch up on my bills...... SO RELEASE X4 NOW!!!!! 
 
Sorry Alex,  I gave you my outside voice... let me say it with my inside voice...  Release X4 now
 
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 08:23:43 (permalink)
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GM production, 
 
Please stop drinking alcohol when you Mix, it causes you to see things in Sonar that will never be there.   LOL
 
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 09:36:19 (permalink)
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I like to skip a few versions.. I hate new releases as it fill the forum with babble for a few months.. 


So if they call it X6 many like you would buy immediately.


 
 
I should be in Marketing.
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 10:16:01 (permalink)
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I would a ProChannel bus for master with a lot of new plugs like GML ,AVALON,MASELEC,MILLENNIA MEDIA.....
Yes......i'm dreaming



GM production, 
 
Please stop drinking alcohol when you Mix, it causes you to see things in Sonar that will never be there.   LOL
 
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 13:35:05 (permalink)
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I like to skip a few versions.. I hate new releases as it fill the forum with babble for a few months.. 


So if they call it X6 many like you would buy immediately.


 
 
I should be in Marketing.




Hey it works for Windows - skipping 9 and going straight to 10!

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 21:13:14 (permalink)
Yes...
 
Everyone knows the older versions sound better because they are analog! 
 
You talk about marketing,, the word analog and organic sell like hotcakes.. You can charge more for it too.. 
So Sonar Analog Edition 9 is what I want..

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 21:19:33 (permalink)
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Yes...
 
Everyone knows the older versions sound better because they are analog! 
 
You talk about marketing,, the word analog and organic sell like hotcakes.. You can charge more for it too.. 
So Sonar Analog Edition 9 is what I want..




 
Why not just go to 11? It's better than 10, or 9.

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/17 23:05:07 (permalink)
Yup. One more :)

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/18 15:45:05 (permalink)
They are not going to do X4. They are pulling a Microsoft and going to release X6 next. Long Live Sonar X6!
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/18 18:58:43 (permalink)
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They are not going to do X4. They are pulling a Microsoft and going to release X6 next. Long Live Sonar X6!




That news is sooooo October 17. It's up to Sonar X7 now.

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/18 20:03:29 (permalink)
Here's a pic for you....

http://i.imgur.com/oryPJky.jpg?1


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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/18 20:23:52 (permalink)
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Here's a pic for you....

http://i.imgur.com/oryPJky.jpg?1




I remember when this picture first "did the rounds" - I was intrigued by the menu items in the top right hand corner.
 

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/18 20:48:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby lawp 2014/10/20 04:43:57
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Here's a pic for you....

http://i.imgur.com/oryPJky.jpg?1




I remember when this picture first "did the rounds" - I was intrigued by the menu items in the top right hand corner.
 


Obviously photoschoped.
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/19 12:04:24 (permalink)
Larry... good to see you around.  
 
And nice pic... assuming it's not photoschoped, of course.
 

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/19 12:46:54 (permalink)
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Larry... good to see you around.  
 
And nice pic... assuming it's not photoschoped, of course.
 




Wasn't this the picture from the Cake Blog article?

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/19 14:49:24 (permalink)
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Larry... good to see you around.  
 
And nice pic... assuming it's not photoschoped, of course.
 




Wasn't this the picture from the Cake Blog article?


yes it was the picture from the Cake Blog article

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/19 23:48:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/10/19 23:48:25
I know...    I just wanted to use "photoschoped" in a sentence.
 

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/20 04:01:07 (permalink)
Are there any traditional "tells" that signal a new version is imminent?
 
One possible one is "buy X3 today and get a free upgrade to X4 when it is released."
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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/20 06:42:36 (permalink)
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Are there any traditional "tells" that signal a new version is imminent?
 
One possible one is "buy X3 today and get a free upgrade to X4 when it is released."


That one is the biggest "tell".
Once you see that you know it will be anytime between next week and next year...

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/20 08:07:03 (permalink)
X4............ I've been so busy that I purchased X3 last year, installed it and have not yet even opened it.
I still have about 40 more VST's to install and register before X3 is even ready to use.

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/20 08:58:06 (permalink)
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X4............ I've been so busy that I purchased X3 last year, installed it and have not yet even opened it.
I still have about 40 more VST's to install and register before X3 is even ready to use.

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Re: Sonar X4, isn't it time you peaked your head!!!! 2014/10/20 09:37:55 (permalink)
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Are there any traditional "tells" that signal a new version is imminent?
 
One possible one is "buy X3 today and get a free upgrade to X4 when it is released."




 
That's the sign I'm looking for....  C'mon give it to me BAKERS..C'monnnn!! 

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