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2014/10/19 16:10:28 (permalink)

For people who use 3 or more monitors

I'm looking to do a 5 monitor setup on my new computer build and was wondering what graphics setup you guys are using to achieve more than 3 monitors. Many people have said about DisplayPort but how much strain will go on the videocard using 5 monitors for it?
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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/19 23:35:53 (permalink)
I have not had more than 3 monitors at one time in Windows, but I could have had more - I do not recall which video cards I was running, but they were at the time about $450 each.  WAY overkill, as far as I can tell.
 
When 1 of the cards bit the dust after only 6 months, I get rid of both of them and dropped to 2 monitors, both running off the on-board graphics of my computer.
 
I have been running 2 monitors off the on-board graphics ever since, and don't think I will ever again spend that kind of money on video cards.  I just don't think it is needed, other than simply to provide enough ports to plug the monitors in.
 
I currently use an HDMI cable for one monitor, and for the other it is a simple VGA cable.  I have ZERO display problems, and no performance issues either.
 
SOOOO, even though the above does not directly answer your question, it DOES put forth a notion that perhaps you do not need to spend giant bunches of money on video cards for using Sonar.
 
To the best of my knowledge, all you need is 2 or possibly 3 cards to have enough video connections available for the number of monitors you want to run.
 
Perhaps someone with more explicit knowledge can chime in on this for you.  
 
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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 02:07:38 (permalink)
My setup is a bit unusual, and also a bit retro. I have four old Dell monitors (19-inch, 5:4 ratio) connected to three old Matrox graphics cards. I'm not necessarily recommending such a setup, but it works well for me and the image quality is great. The combined total amount of RAM in the three card is only 512MB, but that is not a problem for running Sonar.
 

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 03:39:12 (permalink)
Previously I was using Radeon HD 5450 (driving 2 monitors) and NVIDIA 210 (driving 1 monitor, but I think it can do two as well) for a total of 3 monitors. All fan less cards and all monitors running at 1080p. I wasn't planning for a mix of different cards, but just for trying out to support the third monitor, as I already have the other card. And both cards worked well.
 
Recently the NVIDIA 210 card was damaged due to lightning which damaged one of the monitor as well. I'm now planning for a 4 or 5 monitors setup, so I'll be looking for another fan less card that supports 3 monitors, to add to the existing Radeon HD 5450.
 
Regarding the display port.. I just use a converter to convert it to HDMI. I don't think my setup is capable for games but for Sonar there is no issue.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 04:01:45 (permalink)
For 2D? Little strain. Even integrated Intel cards can drive 3 monitors these days. Really the issue is getting enough output lines/TDMS transmitters to drive all the displays.
 
If you want 5 monitors on one card, there aren't a whole lot of choices. AMD has a few cards that have 6 mini-displayport outs that can do all 6 at once, Matrox makes a bunch of different 6 and 8 monitor cards.
 
What I generally set up when someone wants that many monitors is a multi card solution though. Cheaper and easier. Use the integrated card to drive two, get a addon GPU to drive the other three.
 
If you make sure the monitors you buy support both DVI and Displayport in, you should have no issues finding cards to drive them. Most cards supports one or two monitors via DVI (or sometimes HDMI which is the same thing electrically) and then the rest via DP.
 
Just make sure the card you get supports the number of outputs you need. Some cards have more physical connectors than display lines. Like I have a GTX 980 with 2 DVI, 3 DP and 1 HDMI connections but 4 monitors is all you get at one time, the multiple connections are for your convenience in what kind of hookup you use. Also note that most cards, other than Matrox, only support 2 displays on DVI or VGA the rest have to be DP and the cheapie passive converters don't work, you need a more expensive active one.
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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 05:35:19 (permalink)
I'm using a NVS450 from Nvidia, which is fanless. It can drive up to 4 monitors, but AFAIK you can have several NVS cards so its just to buy one more :)

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 09:24:00 (permalink)
Sorry to hijack this thread momentarily but I have a question raised by something said above.  I am running an ASUS P8H77 MoB and using a Nvidia 210 Graphics card driving 2 27" monitors, am I correct in thinking that I could also run a third monitor off the on board graphics ports, there are four physical ports, a display port, and HDMI, a Digital and an VGA 15 pin on the back plate of the MoB.
 
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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 10:18:30 (permalink)
You'll need to read the MOBO manual and it will tell you what your on board video is capable of. I just bought a GigabyteGA Z97X and it can do 2 with no problem and a third if you do something in the bios. It has 4 types of connections but as said above you can't always use all the connections at the same time

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 13:26:24 (permalink)
Thanks JohnnyV I will read the manual and also see if any other have any insights.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 17:55:21 (permalink)
Sorry this is a bit off topic, but have any of you ever experimented with having a vertical monitor? I currently have 2 regular 24" monitors, and it's great... But when I get my next computer, I was thinking about putting a tall, vertical monitor in the middle for 3 total. I'm assuming that Windows 7 or 8 (or maybe 10 by the time I really get around to a new computer) would support this unusual setup... And it just seems like an awesome way to see a lot more tracks at once. Any thoughts?

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 17:55:58 (permalink)
Wookiee,
 
Since you already have 2 monitors, you can test it by hocking up one monitor to the P8H77 and the other to the Nvidia card.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 18:05:20 (permalink)
polarbear,
 
The Windows (7) screen resolution setting enables you to drag the multi monitors setup to match the physical layout.
 


 

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 18:07:12 (permalink)
But what if I wanted one to actually be turned 90 degrees Vertical. So it's tall rather than wide. That's actually what I meant.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 18:09:41 (permalink)
Yes, there is also an orientation setting to do that.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 18:12:43 (permalink)
like this ?
 


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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 18:20:33 (permalink)
ooh nice! exactly. good to know it does do it if i wanted to. it's a thought i had recently but never actually seen it implemented.
 
anyone here ever try that before? it seems like it would be a cool way to see a lot of tracks at once....

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 18:25:55 (permalink)
Yes, I would like to have one of my display to do that as well, especially for viewing PDFs, but none of my existing monitor stand enables me to rotate it that way.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/20 19:35:52 (permalink)
My multi-monitor stand has two arms that can be adjusted for vertical, so I'd probably use one for vertical, one for horizontal and then just the other horizontal monitor standing on its own stand.
 
Yea. It's happening. Probably not till this time next year though haha.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/21 10:44:07 (permalink)
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Wookiee,
 
Since you already have 2 monitors, you can test it by hocking up one monitor to the P8H77 and the other to the Nvidia card.


Thanks Albert I actually have a couple of spare monitors knocking around so I will probs give it a try.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/22 05:20:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tomixornot 2014/10/22 07:14:05
Just my two cents for anyone doing multi-monitor, special with laptops.
Last two gen NVIDIA drivers will get you really high DPC spikes, over 600ms, while AMD cards wont even get to 100ms... When adding more monitors specially with NVIDIA keep an eye on DPC values ;)

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/22 07:26:19 (permalink)
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Just my two cents for anyone doing multi-monitor, special with laptops.
Last two gen NVIDIA drivers will get you really high DPC spikes, over 600ms, while AMD cards wont even get to 100ms... When adding more monitors specially with NVIDIA keep an eye on DPC values ;)




Thanks! I was searching for a replacement card for my damaged Nvidia 210.. most reviews seem to flavor the GT series over Radeon at similar price point. I'll stick with AMD then.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/22 12:08:35 (permalink)
Just for the record the MoB I am using disables the internal VGA etc. when it detects a Video card so the answer to my question is no.  Looks like I will have to go play find a new three head card.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/22 12:57:45 (permalink)
I have been researching all day for a solution for low cost cards that supports 3 monitors. For these cards (HD 5450, HD 55xx, etc..) with 3 video outs, one of the output must be a Display Port (which is not the same as DVI or HDMI from my understanding), in combination with the other 2 to get 3 video outs. Lacking the Display Port, you can only get 2 video outs, even though the card has 3 outs - such as my case of the Sapphire HD 5450 with VGA, DVI and HDMI.
 
For me, I'll simply get another Sapphire HD 5450 to replaced the damaged Nvidia 210 and settle for 4 display max.
 
Reading #johnkeel post above, getting rid of the Nvidia may be a good thing.
 

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/23 02:12:34 (permalink)
I'll keep that in mind. I've been looking at mainly Nvidia cards but I will start looking more towards AMD. I did see an AMD card with like 6 displayport ports on it but I didn't read much about it yet.
 
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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/25 22:40:52 (permalink)
Just like to report back I've successfully updated my system with 2x HD 5450 cards, each driving 2 monitors. All 4 monitors running 1080p. My spec is updated below.
 
I like the 39" Samsung LED TV for main display and 1080p is just fine for me. I can read all text in Sonar clearly, sitting about 3 feet away. The price for the 39" is very close to the 27" and I would have gotten 2x 39" if I got a larger space.

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/27 21:01:17 (permalink)
Nicely done. Can you take a picture of the space with the lights on? Interested to see how you mounted that monitor below the TV
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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/28 08:58:38 (permalink)
TerraSin, 
 
Thanks, here's how it's mounted - The Samsung TV is placed on a higher cabinet while the 3 other monitors sits on a lower work bench. The original work bench height was taller, I got it's 4 legs sawed off about 3 - 4" sometime back, not thinking about this setup, rather it was used as an electric piano stand.
 
Also due to the Dell monitor stand and it's 2 rubber stopper at the bottom, that prevented it from slipping away. The Dell monitor simply rest on the Samsung TV's stand.
 




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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/28 10:53:48 (permalink)
haha that's actually quite brilliant. I was expecting something like a custom wooden box for it to keep it at that angle. Cheers, mate. :)
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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/10/29 07:39:39 (permalink)
Looks amazing :)

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Re: For people who use 3 or more monitors 2014/11/26 11:07:52 (permalink)
Recently I connected a third monitor via the MB vga port.
 
I had to change the BIOS setting to recognize the MB port as the primary so it boot be recognized by windows.
 
Luckily the display card and the MB use AMD chips so no conflict with the drivers.
 
I have this monitor set to the far right. Windows is set for the left monitor to be primary. But when the computer boots all the windows open on the third.
 
Nice to have Sonar's CV across the two right monitors with tracks on left and buses on the right.
 
post edited by YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson - 2014/11/26 12:52:08
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