Behringer made a what? Wireless interface/mixer??

I am not a Behringer user or fan by any means, but this http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/XR18.aspx is blowing my mind.  The Bakers should get in on this idea.  That would be the coolest as long as any such wireless hardware would be compatible (in hopes that more makers take on this technology, of course).
 
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Living Room Rocker

If it works it does look promising, I'd been keen to see how it handles latency via wireless.
I dunno though I am I cable kinda guy... I haven't yet seen the point of replacing a cable that does its job perfectly, that said I am rarely doing anything much more than 3 feet from my pc so I can see how I might not be the target market :D

I have been looking for an upgrade for my Quad Capture for sometime, not to replace it, just for live recording with more tracks.
 
Eyeing on the Studio Capture, but the price is a bit high for me.
 
Waiting for Behringer UMC 1820 + ADA8200 combo. At around US 400/=, good price, but the UMC 1820 is not released yet after such a long announcement.
 
Next the Tascam US 16x08 at even better price. And now the X18 at US 700/= and is very tempting.. add a bit and the choice goes back to Studio Capture :)

johnkeel
MOTU added Wireless control to the Cuemix ages ago, i control it with any tablet or phone (android/iphone), nothing new actually!
Also thereś plenty of stuff that will turn a tablet in a midi controller for your DAW...

Hey, John.  Yeah, MUTO does have wireless capability, however, the interface must be connected to a computer.  The XR18 has wireless capability built-in, so it does not have to be hardwired to any device (PC, tablet, etc.).  In that respect it is a unique audio interface.  (That is, it can be used like a mixer for live performance.)
 
Nonetheless, I would certainly use MOTU before ever considering Behringer.  In fact, Behringer is nowhere on my list.
 
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Living Room Rocker

Presonus now do rack versions of their digital mixers, 16 and 32 channel versions.

The 32, for example, will act as a 32x32 interface with a computer or run standalone with any wireless device such as iPad, tablet, Mac mini, etc, as a controller.

Karyn
Presonus now do rack versions of their digital mixers, 16 and 32 channel versions.

The 32, for example, will act as a 32x32 interface with a computer or run standalone with any wireless device such as iPad, tablet, Mac mini, etc, as a controller.

Hi Karyn, I looked at the RM/AI stuff before, but I didn't catch anything about wireless.  But I took a closer look and sure enough, you got me.  I am not much in favor of Presonus' hardware, but I believe it is a world above Behringer's for sure.  The hardware mixers are pretty cool, indeed.  I recall being impressed with these when first announced.  I read that Presounus just released a Dante card so that make these mixers even cooler.  But the price tag is up there.  Comparing the price of Behringer, that might say a lot more about the quality of Behringer hardware, as usual.
 
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Living Room Rocker

Thanks Jim for the first hand experience. I inquired at a store yesterday but they are not available yet. I'm willing to give the XR12 a shot for $300. If it actually works as a simple audio interface that will be useful. Mostly It will give me a playback option for live performance. 
 
I'm still toying with returning to using midi in a live situation to control effects parameters for each song. So that require using a DAW to playback my backing tracks. Audio/MIDI. 
 
I would have bought the XR12 outright if it was in stock, instead they are letting try out a TC Helicon voice Play. It will require hours of set up for different songs and then remembering which preset is correct while performing! It sounds good so far but I've been down that road before, sounds great at home/ sucks at the gig. 

Yes I said that in #4. 
It's always debatable that audio will sound much better over an interface. I've mostly just used the 1/8" line out for the last 10 years. But if I use a DAW for playback I will need ( desire) stable asio drivers. So this will be a wait and see for this product. People in music stores I was in today just draw a blank stare when you ask about the availability. They are not on the price list yet. 

It's too bad the Behringer screwed up so big in the audio world, They must have a hard job now to convince all those people who got burned that they could make anything dependable. The x32 is a big hit,, but it's only been in use for a short while. MY Yamaha system is 25 years old,, so I kind trust them still..

johnnyV
 
I would have bought the XR12 outright if it was in stock, instead they are letting try out a TC Helicon voice Play. It will require hours of set up for different songs and then remembering which preset is correct while performing! It sounds good so far but I've been down that road before, sounds great at home/ sucks at the gig. 

FWIW, I owned a TC Voice-Live II for about 6 months.

• The onboard mic preamp was terrible!  Preamps in a $500 32-channel Behringer analog board blew that preamp away.  The Behringer preamps sounded fat and alive by comparison  
• The reverbs were nowhere close to what I was expecting (given the TC name/reputation).
• The tap-tempo feature had a major bug (at least on my unit).  If you had consecutive presets that used different types of delay, the tempo would get scrambled.  Switch patches... and you'd see the blinking light flashing at like 300-BPM... and the sound was completely botched.  Had to (re)tap the tempo prior to starting every tune.

The harmony and pitch-shift EFX were cool... but my bandmates could sing harmony (well) on-the-fly.  I never used those features.
 
 

Funny you should mention the Rumble. While I was in the store picking up the Voice live Play ( I took it back see * )   I was also inquiring about sub woofers. I just sold my Yorkville 200Wx 18" , way to big for my tired old bones. Small subs are like $1,000??. Being a lot smarter than I look, I asked about small bass amps, I got to try a real nice Fender Jazz fretless into the Rumble 12" Wow!!. It weighs like nothing too! What have they got hidden in that thing?  I will pick one up later once I've paid off this last round of GASing up. 
 
And don't knock the idea of using a bass amp for a small sub.. think about it. What is a small sub? A power amp and a heavy duty speaker. What is a bass amp.. that's right. All you do is turn the MID and Treble down voila! a pour mans hi pass filter. I speak from experience. 
 
My plan for the future is to use a DAW , Sonar if so, for my backing track playback. This will allow a few cool things. Audio and then MIDI control of my Effects, and sending the bass track, that's right!  a real bass, to the bass amp. I've done this successfully already with split stereo wave files. It's cool, it is like having a real bass player on stage..except this one does not drool. 
That is why this thread got me going in the first place. Looking at tha XR 12 brings this a little closer to reality. I could use any old interface, but as Jim just said, most interfaces have crummy pre amps. Pre amps and good effects are important to me live. I just bought a Beta 58 too. 
 
* http://forum.cakewalk.com/Lexicon-MX-200-as-a-VST-plug-in-m3111262.aspx
 

I've had an XR18 digital mixer running with Sonar for several months now as an 18x18 USB interface on ASIO driver.  For the most part I absolutely love it.  There are some instances where I see a little difference in behavior from Sonar while it's been in the place of my RME, but those seem to be on projects with a mix of 64 and 32 bit plugs, so it's hard to attribute 100% to the interface.
 
I did go from PCIe to USB 2, which really may not even be a real factor for my lightweight use, but it did give me pause.  The GUI interface, which just got an update today BTW, is gorgeous and intuitive, as it's just like a live mixer.  I've got four independent stereo effects busses and compression on each channel as desired for monitoring.  I can run headphones and three stereo monitors off it, and it interfaces MIDI to my Kurzweil.  It also does some kind of ethernet P16 monitoring, which I've not even looked at yet, but I understand adds lots of monitoring flexibility with some add on devices.  Then I can gig with it, which really is it's primary function, and for that it's just incredible.
 
At home and gigging I have it hardwired to an ethernet switch with simultaneous control from whatever it sees on the network including IPAD control VIA WIFI provided by the LAN.  I've not used the internal WAP on it as I prefer keeping a wire on it.  I see the IPAD control as icing on the cake and not required since you can control from the computer.  But it has worked great and I'm happy I got it.  Almost sent it back because I initially thought it was controlled *only* from the IPAD.  Then realized I could run it over ethernet from the computer, then I saw the interface and realized the power it had, so I kept it.  The preamps sound meaty, it's responsive, the processing sounds great, today's update looks fantastic, hence I've decided shared my experience.  They've not put out an updated ASIO driver since the first one, so I hope that's approaching soon.

Cactus Music
THis is good news,, now you got me going again on this!!

There's a fantastic X-Air group over on Facebook that has tons of really good information and video tutorials that demonstrate all the box is capable of, so you can really get a thorough tour of it.  Much like the vibe here, its a very friendly and well informed group with users from everywhere.  My only quibble was going to USB2 from PCIe, which is likely negligible for my use, and now I can use it on my desktop and notebook and anything I may get in the future.  As I mentioned, I almost sent mine back before truly realizing all it could do, plus direct PC control via Ethernet with nice GUI...my nine year old daughter can run it.  And I've never had 16 pre's in my life, except for my Mackie CR 1604 mixer back in the 90's...don't even know yet what to do with that many.  So that, plus tracking with monitored compression, limiting, gating, FX, dadadadada...I'm enjoying it.