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2014/10/23 17:37:05 (permalink)

Look What the Bat Dragged In...


 
This'll probably keep me busy for a while, considering how little time I spend watching stuff these days.
 
I'm very curious to see and hear Brad Gillis playing the Randy Rhoads era material, even though it's always touchy, Rhoads being my first true guitar hero...  As far as I'm concerned, Gillis did a very fine job on the Sabbath stuff on the album version of Speak of the Devil. He's an unsung hero of my youth, even if that's the only thing I'd heard him play on and never heard Night Ranger until much, much later. That whacky tremolo thing he did was the first time I heard that trick.
 
And then all the footage on Memoirs...
 
 

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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/23 21:32:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/10/24 15:57:11
I remember MTV used to have Saturday night concerts in 82/83. Well one of them was Ozzy on the Diary tour with Brad Gillis playing guitar. I remember putting my jambox in front of the TV and recording the whole thing. I listened to that tape a lot, and can still remember a lot of the solos that Brad did. I thought he did a great job. Those were huge shoes to fill. That guy did do some amazing things with the tremelo. Turns out, that red Fernandes strat had a Floyd Rose first generation tremelo on it(possibly a prototype?). No wonder he could do some of those things. I remember flipping out on the dive bombs and the warble effects. He really pioneered some of those techniques. I wonder what an Ozzy studio album with him would've sounded like.
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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/25 15:03:14 (permalink)
I started watching the second DVD on Memoirs last night - didn't have the time for a full show and wanted to see the early days footage. 
 
Sadly, but not unexpectedly, there very little from the Rhoads era - the 4 songs from what appears to be a short filmed-for-tv special in Rochester that I had already seen, and Over the Mountain live in NM, 82, shot by MTV, with a single camera on the bass player side of the stage... You do get a better glimpse of Rhoads at the very end when they finally zoom in.
 
One thing that really stunned me was the footage from the Ritz, the Speak of the Devil shows. You sometimes make those mental images, incorporating what little visual cues you have from the record sleeve and such... I should also mention that I knew nothing about the Ritz.
 
It was quite a shock when I saw Ozzy w/ his short hair rocking that tiny stage without the extravagant Madman tour stage set. Speak of the Devil sounded so big, and I had this mental picture of a huge, mega arena size concert hall... Well, nope. lol
 
Same as the first Sabbath record actually. I was dumbfounded when I saw pictures of that minuscule recording studio... It sounded so huge and spacious.
 
 

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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/25 22:39:33 (permalink)
I didn't know that either. They did a great job making it sound huge.
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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/26 03:37:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/10/26 15:29:20
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Rain , I can just picture you working on a song and while you are looking at you screen you feel the presence of somebody looking over your shoulder watching you work …when you turn around to see who it is i can see it in my minds eye that you have an upside down attractive female gymnastic "bat" hanging from a cable doing stretches while they warm up on their vocal exercises 
 
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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/26 15:43:22 (permalink)
Kenny - Now that would be awesome. :)
 
Leadfoot - here's a screenshot. Maybe tiny was a bit strong, but it's definitely not large enough to accommodate the big stage set I associated w/ Madman.

I just noticed that there's a chair next to the mic stand, and I'm guessing the sheets on it are lyrics... :/
 
 

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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/26 16:03:07 (permalink)
Definitely not the Madman sized stage. Thanks for the screenshot. Yeah I wonder if those were lyrics or the setlist.
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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/26 16:08:43 (permalink)
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Definitely not the Madman sized stage. Thanks for the screenshot. Yeah I wonder if those were lyrics or the setlist.



Nowadays, people on the internet would probably go nuts about such an unthinkable thing.
 
They'd probably **** about him not wearing a shirt too - I've seen that happening not too long ago, because the singer of the band didn't have 6 pack abs... Not that he was fat, mind you, but some  people thought it was gross because he didn't have a model physique.

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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/26 16:28:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/10/26 16:21:13
He definitely didn't have a six pack, but that's the way you think of Ozzy, shirt off and sweaty. I'm surprised that he didn't have a six pack on the chair though.:)
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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/26 16:31:31 (permalink)
Yup. That and putting the mic on the stand for 2 seconds and picking it back up immediately for 8 seconds walking left and right before he puts it back on the stand for another 3 seconds and starts all over again... :)

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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/26 17:20:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/10/26 18:16:02
Yeah, that always cracked me up. It was almost like he was lost. And don't even get me started on that leapfrog jump that he did! What was that?
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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/26 18:28:34 (permalink)
Watching Memoirs, one thing that struck me is that Ozzy is almost always up onstage before every one else, actually during the intro music, walking the stage left and right clapping his hands, almost as if he was waiting for the band with the fans.
 
It's quite anti-climatic, but also quite unique - you expect the star of the show to make a majestic entry just in time to sing the first line of the song, something grandiose. But not Ozzy. He's right there with the fans.

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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/26 19:08:45 (permalink)
Yeah, I think that's why he's got such a strong following. He's a common man. At least he used to be... I think Sharon was a bad influence in that respect. But especially in the early Sabbath days and his early solo era, he was like somebody of the street. He was just a guy singing in front of a band. There didn't seem to be the superstar attitude.
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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/27 11:49:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/10/27 15:22:19
HEY!
i didn't drag anything......
 


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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/28 13:24:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/10/28 14:59:26
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Definitely not the Madman sized stage. Thanks for the screenshot. Yeah I wonder if those were lyrics or the setlist.



It was a reminder from Sharon not to bite anything thrown onstage... 

 
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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/29 04:25:19 (permalink)
Another thing that strikes me - just how much fun people had back then. Audiences changed so much...
 
You watch any show before 2006-07 an people seem to be having the time of their life. 
 
More recent shows... It's like people are there to do P.R., to be seen on the giant screen and to take frickin' pictures with their phones.
 
I sincerely hope that Ozzy ruined a couple of iPhones throwing buckets of water on the crowd... If it were just me, I'd give him a flame thrower...
 
Incidentally, I was telling exactly that to my wife last night. Theirs is the Cirque first show which you are 100% authorized to film and take pictures of.
 
How much difference does it make? When they come for the big salute at the end, all the people in the front rows are too busy filming to applaud... All they see from onstage are rows of iPhones and cameras...
 
Dumbasses filming a show with their junk phone, a show which, like all major shows, will be available on DVD with 5.1 sound.
 
 

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Re: Look What the Bat Dragged In... 2014/10/29 20:21:27 (permalink)
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Definitely not the Madman sized stage. Thanks for the screenshot. Yeah I wonder if those were lyrics or the setlist.



It was a reminder from Sharon not to bite anything thrown onstage... 


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