berlymahn
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/03 16:01:24
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Blowing past all the comments and heading straight to the bottom... ha.-------------- Built my own machine largely based on specs from a Cakewalk approved vendor... only a bit faster. Running Win7 64bit. No connection to internet.....and I LOVE IT. Machine boots up in a heartbeat and is stable as can be. xfers via me stick. No virus software to step in and slow processes.... Also, somewhere long ago I posted a whole slew of things that you can do to streamline the Windows system (eliminating CAC readers, core parking etc.).... much faster. So, yeah... applies to a desktop running Windows, I know.... But life so far is good.
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Splat
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/03 19:07:19
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I have what could be regarded as a fairly old machine now (good specs through) and it runs fine. Internet is always on via LAN cable. I have antivirus plus malwarebytes running. I manually run updates everywhere once a month (win update, drivers, bios, chipset etc). Nothing is scheduled automatically except the antivirus updates. Modem is firewalled and so is the PC. I have optimized the OS so only essential services, processes and tasks run. I only install DAW related software. I have a backup strategy with Acronis. I've only run into a few issues which weren't too hard to resolve. Recording experience is fine.
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/03 22:12:12
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Acronis is a wise choice.
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/04 06:28:43
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Connected 24/7. Rarely turn my computer off except for restarts. Browse anywhere, all the time. Record from this computer as well with, currently, Sonar X3e. Occasionally, FL Studio. Using AVG Free at present as my AV. When I get paranoid I scan with Malwarebytes as well as AVG. Sometimes I use Norton with a deep scan. Have had malware a few times but that's the business I'm in (technical website). All my important data is on a separate drive. I also backup very important stuff (not as regularly as I should). If I get real crazy and paranoid I format my main drive and reinstall everything. A headache as I get older. Used to format at the drop of a hat and reinstall.
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/04 10:58:43
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Sit behind a NAT firewall/router and all should be well. By default, any incoming connections are refused which means that nasties can only get onto your computer by virtue of dodgy outgoing connections that you make as a user. This means don't follow suspicious links, disable browser pop-ups, don't click on any links in suspicious emails etc. Run some AV software (I use M$ Security Essentials which is pretty good) and keep its definition files up to date. Perform regular full system scans. Note that connections are only established for as long as it takes to download the information (for example, a web page). Unless you're streaming something or downloading a web page, there will be no outgoing connections from your computer to the internet even if you 'are connected'. Some pages may download and run scripts which e.g. perform refreshes of the page, but I generally disable javascript and the like on the grounds that it's a massive security hole.
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Blades
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/04 22:01:06
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I am an IT technician (business owner) by trade and have been for about 20 years. I see all manner of viruses every week, some more obnoxious than others. I've tried to infect machines and can't manage to get them as messed up as some folks can do. Not even sure what they do to get them that bad. Security Essentials/Windows Defender on Win8 is fine for someone who is savvy and careful, but it IS baseline protection. The av-comparatives.org site IS quite useful at showing what the protection levels are. MSE comes in at around 80% protection. We generally recommend ESET NOD since it has a good catch rating, has a pretty low footprint, and has a good server based console for monitoring our business office clients. Having a virtual machine is a good idea for web surfing. I don't do it personally, but if you have the extra hardware to handle a virtual machine, it definitely keeps your web browsing in a walled garden-like atmosphere. Because I spend most of my time on my home machine doing all sorts of things and a relatively small amount on actually using it as a DAW, it's connected all the time. I use it for web development, which by nature of the things I have to work on requires it to be always connected. I don't have the extra funds to have a dedicated system nor do I have the overhead on the system to have a VM for web browsing/email/etc. I just consider myself quite fortunate that I've only ever had one infection - gotten by searching for a recipe for baked shrimp scampi! Bottom line: shellfish are more dangerous than Microsoft. Hope this helps.
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Splat
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/05 01:18:42
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Just one thing. If you really want to go down the virtual machine route for surfing (tad excessive for me) make sure the service is turned off when using Sonar. And if you are using a virus scanner plus Malwarebytes (if you aren't using a virus scanner you are potty in my opinion whether you have internet or not sorry to be blunt) either of them will need to be perfectly configured to ignore certain folder paths or processes (google it)./ta
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/05 01:26:37
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Blades
Because I spend most of my time on my home machine doing all sorts of things and a relatively small amount on actually using it as a DAW, it's connected all the time. I use it for web development, which by nature of the things I have to work on requires it to be always connected. I don't have the extra funds to have a dedicated system nor do I have the overhead on the system to have a VM for web browsing/email/etc. I have a similar scenario, you don't need a separate PC. I multiboot into various OS's for DAW, development, Linux etc (no VM just via bootloader). I wouldn't dream of installing visual studio alongside sonar for instance.
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bitman
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/05 13:58:34
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Anderton I see some people here are very nervous about connecting to the internet due to the nasty stuff floating around, and others who aren't concerned at all. I'm going to describe what I do, and those who really know their stuff can tell me whether I'm doing anything wrong, if there are other steps I should be taking, etc. Ideally, this thread will become "The Complete Guide to How to Keep Your Music Computer Virus-Free Yet Still Use the Net When Needed." 1. My computer usually isn't connected. I connect only when I need something, and go to sites I trust like Cakewalk - I don't surf around. 2. I have Microsoft Security Essentials installed, so I figure that will catch anything excessively weird. 3. If I get any kind of notification, e.g. an update to Adobe Flash is available, I never click on it. Instead I go to the Adobe site and download the update from there. 4. I don't download anything unless it's something I've sought out to download, and only from company sites I trust (e.g., driver update from the TASCAM site, Windows update, new trial version plug-in from Universal Audio, etc.). 5. I have an older Mac running Snow Leopard that I use for general-purpose surfing and downloading. It's Intel, though, so probably not as safe as PPC (although it seems most browsers are incompatible with it anyway).
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wizard71
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/05 17:49:29
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I can understand withholding from updating your pc although you don't have to be disconnected from the net to do so. As for the rest, I guess it depends on what you are prepared to click on. As I said, never had a problem, never put myself in a position to have one, though I gotta say a viral shrimp recipe is sheer bad luck. What was the recipe like?
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DragonBlood
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/05 18:23:07
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My security process is pretty advanced for most people but basically here's a list of things to consider 1. Never run as administrator, Windows installs to administrator by default and I'm sure most of you are running in administrator mode while reading this. 2. Linux is a very secure OS for browsing, Apple Mac OS X isn't as secure as it use to be since its popularity grew. 3. As mentioned, Windows installs to admin by default so every time I format and reinstall it, I don't connect or install internet drivers until I get rid of the admin status of my main account and downgrade it to a user account. All admin functions are performed on a separate admin account that has to be prompted for login (installing, changing OS settings, writing files to the C:\Windows and other system directories) 4. Dual booting is more of a hassle than it's worth, learn to use Virtual Machines. For those who don't know, Virtual Machines are essentially having a 2nd OS/Computer running within your current computer. Keep it in NAT mode when browsing the net or network viruses can get out into your system when browsing within the VM OS. For a virtual machine I'd recommend VirtualBox; along with a simple linux install for browsing; and a shared folder (one connected to your actual desktop from within the VM Desktop) for exporting files. 5. Run antivirus and always defrag and error check your hard drives. For antivirus I recommend Kaspersky Internet Security or eSet Smart Security which can be found for cheap on Amazon or eBay. (their websites are overpriced) 6. Only real solution to keeping your data safe is to back it up and keep it in a safe place, such as at a trusted friends house (if it's that vital, and your house burns down) or a safe that is bolted to the ground. (I won't go into safe education much, but I can hand you a long video on the subject so you can learn) http://youtu.be/ltK-bDbADa8?t=1m23s Remember, when you use a safe you are condensing your life's wealth into one location that can be compromised or taken from you. SO GET A GOOD SAFE. I could go on forever but that's just some basic tips. I've been virus free for a while now.
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hockeyjx
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/05 21:45:46
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Yea, that is a bit over the top DragonBlood for a single-purpose DAW. Agree that a VM is the best way to browse. I don't install anything on my computers that isn't verified, and the Download folder gets scanned when anything is in it. You can run portable versions of antivirus/malware as to NOT have it taking resources, and can use it when you want to. You can keep an encrypted drive off-site easy enough. With a DAW, from what I've encountered, I'd RATHER be an admin. You can always pull a drive out of a system and scan any drive. Basically, if you run a Ubuntu virt, it does what you want. A good fixed safe is a GREAT idea.
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DragonBlood
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/05 23:20:55
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hockeyjx Yea, that is a bit over the top DragonBlood for a single-purpose DAW. No. For you it may be over the top, but for criminals it's not. Especially when your financial info, personal info, photos, pictures, corporate work/trade secrets, are all on your computer and are just waiting to be stolen by a hacker or criminal. Which can ruin your life and make it a living hell. You can judge if it's over the top when everybody else loses it all and I'm the only one with everything still intact.
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hockeyjx
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Re: Educate Me About Music Computers and the Internet
2014/11/05 23:41:16
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Well, my preface was single-use DAW, not a box one keeps all of their important stuff on. Ammonia and dog food. Different criteria for both.
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