how to hear plug ins in sonar x3 producer

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how to hear plug ins in sonar x3 producer

hi there,ive tried to google this to no avail so here i am. i am using sonar x3 producer on windows 8.1.i am using an akai eie pro to input my guitar the guitar i can hear but every time i enable a vst for guitar such as guitar rig i cant hear anything. it seems pretty pointless to me if i cannot hear the effects im using while im recording.is there a simple fix for this problem?
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    Re: how to hear plug ins in sonar x3 producer 2014/11/02 13:48:40 (permalink)
    It is a combination of interface and DAW config. To hear effects while recording, the recording track(s) input echo button(s) must be enabled in SONAR and the interface direct monitoring should be disabled. This will cause all audio to come from the DAW. It also means you will have to deal with the round trip latency caused by monitoring through DAW. Depending on the driver mode in SONAR the latency will need to set as low as possible in Preferences > Driver Settings or the ASIO client supplied by the interface vendor.
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    Re: how to hear plug ins in sonar x3 producer 2014/11/02 13:49:06 (permalink)
    Welcome to the forum!
    May need a little more detail to be able to resolve this for you, but, if you have placed the VST correctly in the FX slot in a Sonar audio track, and you have input echo enabled, you should hear your guitar with effect - unless of course you are monitoring your audio unit's input, and not Sonar.
     
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    Re: how to hear plug ins in sonar x3 producer 2014/11/02 14:03:40 (permalink)
    Just a little background...all DAWs record the dry guitar on a track, and you hear the amp sim processing the dry track during playback. This is why you have to enable input echo; it sends the guitar into the computer, where the plug-in thinks it's a dry track, and processes it.
     
    As scook points out, there is some delay when monitoring through the computer. This is caused by sample buffers within the computer, buffers on the USB port (if you're using a USB interface), and A/D/A conversion. Also, plug-ins with "lookahead" (like some limiters) causes a delay for which SONAR must compensate by delaying all audio.
     
    I assume you are using an external interface which is capable of using an ASIO driver. With a modern computer (and interface with a well-written driver), that should allow a "round-trip" latency of under 10 ms. If you have to use a driver like MME with an internal sound card, the delay will be so long it will take all the fun out of playing.
     
    Please check out this article in the Cakewalk blog if you want to know more about latency basics.

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    Re: how to hear plug ins in sonar x3 producer 2014/11/02 15:36:10 (permalink)
    thanks for all the help! that one little button did it and theres no noticeable latency when playing either.i look forward to asking many more questions the further i get into using sonar x3,thanks for all the help!!
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    Re: how to hear plug ins in sonar x3 producer 2014/11/02 22:01:48 (permalink)
    It is my understanding that SONAR's Help covers this and a whole lot more.  I also believe that Cakewalk makes the manual available on their website.  I remember someone had posted a protocol to follow before posting questions.  Of course there are many here who want and willingly go out of their way to help, but issues like this are easily resolved when any individual references the readily available information in SONAR.  Just hit the F1 key for a start.
     
    Okay, rant over.
     
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    Re: how to hear plug ins in sonar x3 producer 2014/11/02 22:15:08 (permalink)
    Glad to see you got that going.
    Just a side note on the EIE Pro. Make sure you are running the 2.9.55 drivers.
    The original drivers on the disc are a little flakey.
    I'm glad to see more people using this interface.

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