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2014/11/08 13:05:47 (permalink)

Are you better at saying NO?

 If you took an inventory of your audio software would it resemble a volume of an encyclopedia?  I guess that's what separates the pros and amateurs is the pros work with less.
 I can walk into a Guitar Center and look at their PC software and think "I already have that".
 How many of you habitually look at the "Deals" part of this forum or it's the first place you check?
 I have the bargain center of KVR bookmarked and the RSS feed. 
 When an app scans your VST folder do have time to enjoy a cup of coffee?
 How many of you now own an iLok or eLicenser because something was free after vowing to never have dongled software.
 
 I use to download every free VST out there.  It was just as bad when soundfonts where the thing.  I rarely download free VSTs since ones I've paid for do the same thing even if the free one is better.
 
 Then there's the group buys.  I've seen enough IK stuff people try to ditch on KVR.  They go for the buy 1 get 3 free and it sits on the hard drive. (guilty of that) 
 
 Every knew softsynth is the latest and greatest. If you have Komplete, are you close to being familiar with it? I don't know how many times when a new DAW comes out it is crowned king of the DAWs before it's even available for BETA.
 
 It gets just as bad if you have Kontakt.  There are plenty freebies sitting there on the drive you will never use.  When there is a synth emulation for sale people think it's great when you probably have some VST that can do the same thing.
 
 Pay Pal's pay later hasn't helped things.
 
Has anyone ended this madness? 
 
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 13:20:57 (permalink)
I have not ended the madness but as you say I (probably) have all I'll ever need, regardless if it's all that I ever want.
 
If I'm fortunate to live another 25 years I doubt that I can learn all the ins and outs of every library, synth, FX et. al. even I spent 24/7 working with it all.
 
Mostly now I look for the odd/end of the spectrum. Even if does sit on the hard drive I may one day use it. Or not.
 
In the last few months I bought maybe three or four products. In my heyday I'd buy that in a week. But finances are not what they used to be so I am very selective evermore.
 
BRB, gotta check out Deals.
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 13:23:09 (permalink)
I have a policy to treat software "things" in my studio as if it's all hardware.  I don't fill my drive with freebies as I know I'll never use more than half of them at all and the rest maybe only once.
 
I try to stick to the same old plugs and sims as if they were hardware, not because I'm lazy at learning new things (I am) but because I want to have "my sound" on everything I produce, not some random noise trying to sound like xyz producer...
 
It seems the height of fashion these days to use pre-produced sounds that some high flyer producer has released.  Lots of the questions in the forum ultimately boil down to "How do I make my stuff sound like....?"
I prefer to go with my own sound, and you only do that by sticking to a limited set of gear.
 
Who knows, maybe in ten years people will be asking "How do I make my mix sound like Karyn's?"  I doubt it,  but it's a nice thought.

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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 13:28:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Beagle 2014/11/08 17:23:38
Agreed Karyn.
 
Mooch recently said in the songs forum that "Bapu is certainly creating a signature (producer) sound"
 
One cannot hope for more than that.
 
It does come down to that I consistantly use very little of what I own on my productions. I foolishly thought (back in the day) that owning every plug known to man was going to be beneficial when doing collabs or if I was asked to mix someone's song (where they had plugs I did not). Probably a bad choce at the time but I was a neophyte producer.
 
Now I'm an experienced neophyte producer.
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 13:31:45 (permalink)
I'm all out of neophytes,  can you produce some more?

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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 13:48:06 (permalink)
I think I've got it under control.
 
 
I very, very rarely buy on impulse and I usually have a clear idea of what I might "need" eventually. There's seldom more than 2 or 3 items on that list - actually more often than not, there's nothing.
 
I've learned from experience that whatever I need will go on sale at one point, and even more importantly, that it will do so more or less regularly. So missing a sale is usually no big deal, unless it's some kind of limited time offer on an upgrade.
 
I tend to wait until the last minute if something I want is on sale - often enough, simply spending an evening working with what I already own is enough to make me change my mind.
 
But I once was like those folks who's money is burning holes in their pockets, always looking for an opportunity to buy something, browsing forums in search of what I might need next. Obviously, that's a bad strategy because you always can find someone who'll recommend something you don't have.
 
Another thing that helps is that I hate having to install a bunch of different copy protection software on my computer, so I tend to stick with a couple of big names. 

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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 14:22:12 (permalink)
I have it mostly under control. I rarely download freebies even unless it is something truly standout.  Occassionally I will grab a great deal like the 99 cent arturia deal recently posted. Even those, i tend to see if they have something that is truly useful and often delete. I would say my vsts are actually shrinking.  Samples are harder to weed out  but working on reducing those too.
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 16:30:23 (permalink)
No.

 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 16:31:44 (permalink)
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No.


better than me
 
 
i say know
 
and I suspect it's not rite
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 16:41:59 (permalink)
I'm getting better at saying no. Although they've got me itching for MSpectralDynamics over on the software forum (thanks in part for Bitflipper's excellent review). I'm also a sucker for freebies though, and don't mind if it's something I'll only use once a year. Sometimes none of your "main" effects are doing the trick and it turns out some obscure freebie that you've never used before is perfect.

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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 16:49:30 (permalink)
I actually have song going right now where I just could not get a starting point drum kit to give me what I want. Just then the Toontracks' Rock Warehouse SDX goes on sale. I bought it and guess what? It fits the song I'm working on to a T.
 
Just watch. Everyone else will hate it.
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 17:09:26 (permalink)
The latest IK group buy ... best case is buy one get four free ... how could anyone say "no" to that?  But then I looked at the plug-ins available that I don't already have.  There's some nice EQs (already got lots of nice EQs, including FF Pro-Q 2), there's some multi-band stuff (again, pretty much already covered), some verbs (got Aether and the Waves IR1 convo verb).  Just don't really need more stuff like the stuff I've already got.
 
So, even if they IK buys come down to an average of 25 bucks per plug-in, I just don't need 'em.  Saying "no" this time, and kind of amazing myself that I'm doing so.  Could never have done so a year ago.
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 18:25:41 (permalink)
I've never had trouble saying no.
 
It hasn't got any easier to say Yes either because I still only have 2 buttons and a length of thread to my name.
 
Having said that I'm always stoked with the stuff I do have and use regularly and much of the best bits among that have been provided by the benevolence of many of my chums here over the years if the truth be told.
 
So if anyone does have too much stuff they can't find a use for PM me with a list and I'll tell you what I can take off your hands.
 
I can't say fairer than that.

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In the meantime we should all go shopping to console ourselves" - Banksy
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 20:40:08 (permalink)
Jonbouy
because I still only have 2 buttons and a length of thread to my name.

Can I come huddle in your hovel? I can bring my last shred of dignity.
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 21:02:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/11/08 21:51:29
bapu
Jonbouy
because I still only have 2 buttons and a length of thread to my name.

Can I come huddle in your hovel? I can bring my last shred of dignity.




Not until you've lost that very last shred will you belong among us...

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In the meantime we should all go shopping to console ourselves" - Banksy
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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/08 21:29:55 (permalink)
I've hit a wall when it comes to my purchases. I'm also finding it hard to find something that I don't already have or have something better be it hardware or software. Of course, I'm taking into consideration practicality, as well.

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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/09 08:39:50 (permalink)
 
 
I'm a bugger for a bargain

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Re: Are you better at saying NO? 2014/11/09 12:07:57 (permalink)
I used to work in music stores back in the day when midi was just catching on …the late 70's to mid 80's 
while having my morning cup of coffee  there would be a line outside of Manny's Music full of people waiting for the store to open up just so they could pay top dollar for a DX7 or even a CZ 101 ….i kid you not …
 
having come from that era and point of view ,
it is absolutely mind blowing for me to be able to take a computer w an external sound card and pack a few hundred grand worth of music tools on it for not much more than it would have cost for a keyboard or two back in that day ..
 
as far a being able to say yes or no when it comes to buying a lot of stuff I may need or not need …
I would have to say that it depends on what it is and what my intended use for it is…
Guitars , amp and pedals …I'm good , that base has been covered in spades for a long time …
 
since I get the impression this topic is more about music software , software instruments and plugs …
I would have to say that I'm learning to discern and be more selective about what my true needs are as opposed to what my wants are …
 
I've been sporting my own way with my music recording for years on my own dime ….as many of us here have .
 
my short answer for saying yes or no on a new software purchase depends heavily on what the intended use or payoff is and whether I have the money or not to be able to buy it. 
 
I had a next door neighbor that had 3 boats while living in an apt complex , this guy used to give me pounds of fresh Salmon he caught just for keeping an eye on his place when he was out of town …
I asked him one day if it was any cheaper to do your own fishing ? he laughed and said no , it's way more expensive …
he liked the feeling of accomplishment and he loved to fish….
them poor old fish never stood a chance ….The friend had a sonar system installed on his boats .
 
What chance do I stand ?
I guess  is it's a big world out there and I'm just a little fish …
I can say this for sure ,  man , these software companies sure know exactly what bait to throw on the ole hook  
 
Now , I'm totally confused , I think i may need to find a 12 step program just for these type of issues ..
I know I can quit , I  know for sure that I can quit any time I want to …yes I can …..  
 
Kenny
 
post edited by kennywtelejazz - 2014/11/09 12:32:25

                   
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