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2014/11/03 19:54:38 (permalink)

Western Digital vs. Seagate.

 Your experiences?
 
 Finally a Seagate 500Gb drive finally gave out. It's sectors are going bad. It was past it's 5 warranty. I might have had this drive for 8 years.  This is an internal drive I use for storage so no major loss.
 
 Odd, I still prefer WD and I've RMA'd 3 WD Black drives and never a Seagate. Maybe because they send you a drive and you send back the old one. 
 
 I'm gong to replace it with a 1000GB WD Blue.  It's only a 2 yr warranty.  I've had good luck with WB Blue.  
 
 Drives seem to be of better quality in the previous decade.
 
   
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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/03 20:43:22 (permalink)
Where's Maxtor?  Did he leave the party?!?
 
I've had nothing but good experiences with Western Digital, and I will most likely continue to buy Western Digital for all my decaying-format, mass-storage needs.
 
I have been running two, WD Blue HDD's for the last 5 years without any issues (knock on wood).  Additionally, I have an old WD 80GB HDD still spinning and spewing data in/out since 2006'ish.
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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/03 21:07:29 (permalink)
Maxtor is Seagate.
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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/03 21:19:19 (permalink)
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Maxtor is Seagate.



Oh really?  Well, then go with Western Digital!
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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/03 21:57:31 (permalink)
I should start a business making wall clocks out of all the hard drives I've gone through over the years....

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/04 01:35:44 (permalink)
I'd heartily recommend looking into an SSD drive from another maker altogether. If you make the switch you'll be giddy with satisfaction.

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/04 06:35:31 (permalink)
At one time, Seagate had a reliability problem.  I haven't heard of any with recent models, on the computer forums I visit, for a long time.  I've got Seagate, Western Digital and Hitachi hard drives and no problem with any.
 
 

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/04 07:38:41 (permalink)
WD fan myself - have 3 in my home brew computer one is pushing 7 years now (not running the OS anymore).

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/04 10:04:25 (permalink)
 I've got Seagate, Western Digital and Hitachi hard drives and no problem with any.
 
Same here, what ever is on sale. 1 TB drives this week were $54 

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/04 10:22:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2014/11/04 11:21:44
Western Digital supplies parts to numerous manufacturers.
Remember a few years ago... a couple WD HD factories were destroyed... and it created a conventional HD shortage.
Prices went thru the roof on *all* HDs.
 
Modern make HDs are pretty reliable.
If you use enough quantity (for a long enough period) you'll (eventually) have HD failure from all the major brands.
IOW, You can't simply buy "brand X" and be immune to failure.
WD, Seagate, and Toshiba all make good drives.
Avoid WD Blue series HDs over 1TB... as they're Intelli-power (not true 7200RPM)
 
Make sure important data is backed up.
More than likely, you won't have an issue... but be prepared and it's nothing more than a minor annoyance.
 
 
 

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/04 12:11:28 (permalink)
I have had Seagate, WD, and Hitachi drives go bad on me due to power supply issues.  Most recently I built a computer with a Samsung SSD system drive, a new WD 3gb drive, and 2 backup 2gb Seagante drive from my old computer.  The first time I powered the thing on, the PSU must have surged because all three standard drives stopped working.  I lost everything.  The only one that survived was the SSD.  
 
I guess I should ask you Jim, is what I did just a bone headed move, or should you expect the PSU to work correctly on the first go?

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/05 15:00:09 (permalink)
I have 2 x 1TB Seagate drives, replaced one after less than a year having it. Got the replacement,  and it went out completely. Now, the other one which I had about 4 years, is going out. It just disapears in Windows, and I have to restart the PC to get it back to show. 
 
I'm gonna need two more storage drives 1TB each. This time I'm going with Western Digital. I have a 300GB WD HDD that I've had more than 4 years, and it's still working great! I know the problems are usually with bigger HDDs like 1TB and bigger. I don't think I'm ever gonna go with a HDD over 1TB in size.
 
 


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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/05 15:22:16 (permalink)
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I guess I should ask you Jim, is what I did just a bone headed move, or should you expect the PSU to work correctly on the first go?



You should expect the PS to work properly from the get-go.
If you want to be super cautious, you could connect just the boot drive... then boot to see if all is ok (prior to connecting all other HDs).
 
Are you sure it was the PS... and not a dead-short caused by something else?
 

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/05 15:24:43 (permalink)
FWIW, We've had WD drives fail too...
I had a WD Black 1TB drive fail about 2 months ago.
 
Use enough quantity and you'll see a percentage of failure from all the manufacturers.
 

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/05 18:08:19 (permalink)
Murphy's Law applies to any brand drive - hard drive or SSD.  Reason to Backup - not for IF you will ever need it but for WHEN you will need it.

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/05 21:17:06 (permalink)
I don't believe that power supplies surge?? At least not the ones I buy. If you built your own and bought some POS $30 special well that could blow your system up if it is under powered, surge? I don't think so. I have always used at least 750 Watt PS from brands like Cooler master, Antec. 
Power is pretty important especially for those with a lot of stuff inside the box. 

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/05 22:21:45 (permalink)
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FWIW, We've had WD drives fail too...
I had a WD Black 1TB drive fail about 2 months ago.
 
Use enough quantity and you'll see a percentage of failure from all the manufacturers.
 




 
That's sad news.
 
Aren't there any 1TB drives that are nicely reliable and have good performance at 7200rpm or faster? How much of the 1TB drive is safe to use without the drive failing?
 
Your input means a lot, Jim. Thanks for your comments in this thread.


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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/06 11:51:15 (permalink)
Are you sure it was the PS... and not a dead-short caused by something else?

 
I guess I can't be sure.  I suppose now that you mention it, it is more likely to have been an odd build up of power in the MOBO somewhere on the first run.  The computer started fine, I installed windows with no problem, but then I noticed the other HD's were not working, not even spinning.   The power supply is a very nice modular Corsair unit.  

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/06 11:57:46 (permalink)
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Jim Roseberry
FWIW, We've had WD drives fail too...
I had a WD Black 1TB drive fail about 2 months ago.
 
Use enough quantity and you'll see a percentage of failure from all the manufacturers.
 




Aren't there any 1TB drives that are nicely reliable and have good performance at 7200rpm or faster? How much of the 1TB drive is safe to use without the drive failing?
 



Hi Thomas,
 
The WD HDs are actually pretty reliable.
The one I mentioned was several years old.  
My point is that buying brand X doesn't make you immune to potential failure.
 
WD, Toshiba, and Seagate all make good HDs.
We've seen slightly higher failure rates with Seagates.
On the flip side, Seagate's warranty/service is great.

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/06 12:55:39 (permalink)
Jim:
 
Thanks for the info.


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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/07 11:04:36 (permalink)
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Maxtor is Seagate.


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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/12 16:53:36 (permalink)
Hard-drive reliability is subjective to the company and how it operates--and this changes year after year. Like Anti-Virus companies, one drive manufacturer will produce the best of the year, while another will take its place the next year and so on. the good news is, many of them are excellent for the price. I always advise just making sure you have good backups: three drives (two onsite, and one off-site, which is carefully updated every week).

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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/12 17:32:09 (permalink)
I use all WD Black drives now and have had nothing but good experiences with them. The other major benefit to Black drives (and I think a couple of their other drives) is that they have a 5 year warranty. If the drive fails, they take care of it. I've had one of their Green drives fail before and it was replaced without issue.
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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/15 01:31:33 (permalink)
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I use all WD Black drives now and have had nothing but good experiences with them. The other major benefit to Black drives (and I think a couple of their other drives) is that they have a 5 year warranty. If the drive fails, they take care of it. I've had one of their Green drives fail before and it was replaced without issue.




 The drives I've RMA'd were WD Blacks.  Never had to do that with a WB Blue.  Those old IDE drives almost last forever.  I had a WD 160GB that I put in a enclosure that ran 24 hours and it died last year. I may have bought that at the turn of the century.   I was at an estate sale last Summer and I think the person was a part retailer. I got a WD 500GB IDE for $10.  I popped it in a machine for additional storage.  You can still buy those.
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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/15 01:44:50 (permalink)
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I have 2 x 1TB Seagate drives, replaced one after less than a year having it. Got the replacement,  and it went out completely. Now, the other one which I had about 4 years, is going out. It just disapears in Windows, and I have to restart the PC to get it back to show. 
 
I'm gonna need two more storage drives 1TB each. This time I'm going with Western Digital. I have a 300GB WD HDD that I've had more than 4 years, and it's still working great! I know the problems are usually with bigger HDDs like 1TB and bigger. I don't think I'm ever gonna go with a HDD over 1TB in size.
 
 




 You should have SMART enabled in the BIOS and install WD Diagnostics and Sea Tools.  Run SMART tests. Usually the software apps will detect failure before your BIOS tells you.  I had a drive disappear and I found out the SATA cable wasn't secured.  
 I avoid internal drives over 2gb because they have more platters. 
 
 
 
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Re: Western Digital vs. Seagate. 2014/11/15 10:49:05 (permalink)
kitekrazy1The drives I've RMA'd were WD Blacks.  Never had to do that with a WB Blue.  Those old IDE drives almost last forever.  I had a WD 160GB that I put in a enclosure that ran 24 hours and it died last year. I may have bought that at the turn of the century.   I was at an estate sale last Summer and I think the person was a part retailer. I got a WD 500GB IDE for $10.  I popped it in a machine for additional storage.  You can still buy those.

I think you'll find people who have issues with any drive. I've personally never had to RMA a Black (knock on wood) but I know I'm covered for 5 years if I ever do. Plus, Blacks are high performance drives which are good for large libraries if you're not going with SSD.
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