cobalexi11
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SONAR X1 AUDIO DEVICES/DRIVER ISSUE
Its not been very long since i have started recording at home, so i will try to make myself as clear as i can. I recently bought a boss me 25 for digital recording. I connect my guitar to the boss pedal and boss's output is connected to the amp, so my amplifier acts as a playback device as well. In playback and recording section, the driver mode is set to ASIO and (boss in) and (boss out) are the only drivers i see under input and output driver section in devices section. I just bought a single studio monitor solely for playback purpose but when i connect it to the boss's output it starts acting as a guitar amplifier too. I tried connecting the studio monitor to pc directly but there are no drivers under the input and output driver section (only boss drivers). Is there any way to connect my studio monitor to my pc without interfering with the boss's setup because i want to use the amplifiers when i am playing and recording but do not want it to act as a playback device. Thanks
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Living Room Rocker
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Re: SONAR X1 AUDIO DEVICES/DRIVER ISSUE
2014/11/04 23:17:33
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cobalexi11 Is there any way to connect my studio monitor to my pc without interfering with the boss's setup because i want to use the amplifiers when i am playing and recording but do not want it to act as a playback device. Thanks I am not familiar with the Boss me 25, but most interfaces have a mix control that allows you to control the amount of the processed sound and the unprocessed sound. Is there such a knob/dial on you me 25 or is there software to configure the me 25? Hit back. I'll look for your pedal on the net to familiarize myself in the meantime. Kind regards, Living Room Rocker
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Living Room Rocker
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Re: SONAR X1 AUDIO DEVICES/DRIVER ISSUE
2014/11/04 23:59:36
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Well, Aseem, it seems that the output of the ME 25 will be the same going into your PC as it is going out of the phones, mono/stereo outputs and any other outputs which I failed to see. There is no mix control (not to be confused with SONAR LE). So the signal going in and out of SONAR will include the ME 25 signal since that signal is not going into SONAR in a clean state. However, if you add an effect, such as a delay, in the effects bin in SONAR for your guitar track, I would guess it would come out the same outputs thus allowing the signal to sound the same on all outputs. I am assuming this based on the product description that states that the USB connect is bidirectional (in and out). Then again, that may not be the case. To be more definitive, I would have to use the pedal myself. Or, you can give some feedback by trying the same configuration I suggested (insert a delay in effect effects bin). Just don't use the same effect in the ME 25. In fact, you can just set the ME 25 on bypass so the you are only sending a clean signal to SONAR. Another thing to consider, the ME 25 only has a single channel output, that is, the sound coming out of the pedal itself (not two separate channel outputs, one for your amp and another to your monitor/speaker). Let me know what you hear after you have configured SONAR accordingly. Kind regards, Living Room Rocker
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cobalexi11
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Re: SONAR X1 AUDIO DEVICES/DRIVER ISSUE
2014/11/05 01:21:49
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Thanks for the reply. The signal going in and out of Sonar does include ME 25 signal as it is a multi effects processor. The ME 25 has a single channel output and that is the problem i am facing. Is there any way i can use both the drivers (PC and asio). What i am basically doing is connecting my guitar to the me 25 input, connecting the amplifier to me 25 output and then i connect the studio monitors directly to the computer using a basic aux cable. But Sonar does not display any other output drivers apart from ME Out. Is there any specific driver that i can install or any way Sonar can display PC in the output driver section so that i can select my PC (which goes into the studio monitors) as my playback device. When i select MME instead of ASIO in the main driver section, i cannot use ME25 because its not listed in the input driver section. ME25 input with PC or studio monitor Output is what i really need. Thanks
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Living Room Rocker
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Re: SONAR X1 AUDIO DEVICES/DRIVER ISSUE
2014/11/05 21:26:10
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Unfortunately, since the ME 25 only has an ASIO driver, you will not be able to use two interfaces simultaneously (the ME 25 and your PC's internal sound card.) There is a well alternative called ASIO4All. I have heard as of late that there are minor problems with the later versions. I have not used this wrapper so I cannot give you first hand experience. You can do a web search for ASIO4All. After you install it and it is working properly, you should see it in the available drivers. Kind regards, Living Room Rocker
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Re: SONAR X1 AUDIO DEVICES/DRIVER ISSUE
2014/11/06 00:14:20
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The ASIO driver specification means that usually only one audio device can be used by Sonar if you use ASIO drivers. There are some exceptions in that a few interface managers write drivers that will allow more than one of their interfaces to be used at the same time, but I doubt the Boss unit is one, and if it were you would need another Boss to make this work.
ASIO4ALL can be useful if the only soundcard/interface available is the one built into the PC. It is not a true ASIO driver though, and has been known to cause problems for other audio drivers on the system, including ASIO ones. If you do install it and manage to get it to work I don't know if Sonar will allow you to use it with the Boss driver as well, I've never tried this.
You can use more than one interface/soundcard if you use Window's WDM drivers (if the Boss and soundcard have WDM drivers) or if all else fails Window's MME drivers. Id you are monitoring whatbyou are recording through Sonar's track echo function though you are likely to have big problems with latency using WDM and certain to with MME drivers.
I'm not sure how you are recording the guitar? Are you recording audio from the Boss, that is without also recording the guitar amplifier? If the ME-25 has amplifier simulations and you are using them then one answer might be to use the monitor instead of the guitar amplifier (because it's output will not be being recorded in the first place).
Your best answer is probably to look for a USB audio interface that has multiple inputs and outputs and ASIO drivers and use that to do all the audio input and output from Sonar. If that is not possible it might be possible to use the PC's own soundcard with ASIO4ALL if necessary, but I would avoid that if possible.
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cobalexi11
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Re: SONAR X1 AUDIO DEVICES/DRIVER ISSUE
2014/11/06 10:16:27
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I downloaded asio4all and ran sonar but the issue is that you can either select ME25 drivers or asio4all drivers. You cannot select ME25 as input and asio4all as output driver (or the other way around). I can either buy an audio interface with two output channels or i can use my studio monitor (single) as an amplifier. I connected the studio monitor (70 watt Resolv SE5) with the me25's output a few days back but i thought it might damage the monitor, so i unplugged. ME25 is a guitar multi effects pedal so it has amp simulations and other effects installed. Is it alright to use the monitor as a guitar amp as i play heavy music?. Never heard of it before but I do not think it can damage the monitor. Let me know. Thanks
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Re: SONAR X1 AUDIO DEVICES/DRIVER ISSUE
2014/11/06 10:27:36
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The ASIO specification only permits one ASIO driver for I/O at a time.
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cobalexi11
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Re: SONAR X1 AUDIO DEVICES/DRIVER ISSUE
2014/11/06 11:00:46
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Is there much of a difference between guitar amp speakers and studio monitor speakers?. If i connect the monitor directly to me25's output, play guitar through it and use it as playback device, is it fine or will it damage the speakers?. Thanks
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