Deleting Selected Markers: is it a BUG ? or was it intended ? or am I doing sth wrong ?

In "marker view" I select some markers (holding Ctrl key). Then I go to "edit->delete special" where I tick Markers and press OK. What happens is selected markers are deleted (ok, that's what I wanted) and also ALL THE (unselected) MARKERS between them (disaster!). Any idea ?

Thanks, of course ! (... I'm off banging my head on the wall)

Try this: In Marker view, ctrl-click the ones you want to cut. Then, click the little (-) sign in the upper left corner of the Marker view window.

Anderton
Try this: In Marker view, ctrl-click the ones you want to cut. Then, click the little (-) sign in the upper left corner of the Marker view window.

 
 
Tried. I guess (-) works same as "delete" button so this does not let me paste markers elsewhere.  
 

id really like to see marker enhancements.
like copy markers with a midi file for example.
many times i back up my midi files, i would love to be able to copy marker info with it.
instead i have to create a blank project instead with just one midi track on it.
 
heyo, was up.
Chucks

Anderton

John
If I want to reposition a marker I drag to the new position on the timeline.

I often need to do that with pitch markers if I change the song structure. I found out you can select multiple markers and drag them all at once.

That's the point - I couldn't find a way to drag group of markers to a new position (is there any?) so tried the CUT SPECIAL function. Oddly it cuts all the markers between selected markers as well.

Afrodrum
That's the point - I couldn't find a way to drag group of markers to a new position (is there any?) so tried the CUT SPECIAL function. Oddly it cuts all the markers between selected markers as well.

Sorry, I didn't remember correctly (didn't have SONAR on front of me) - I cut or copied and pasted, not dragged.
 
scook is correct that this is time-line based. I don't know of any way to select non-consecutive markers, you have to select a range.
 
For example, suppose you have markers at the beginning of measures 20, 21, and 22. Now suppose you select in the timeline above the track view from measures 19 to 23, then copy special and select only markers.
 
Now if you place the now time on measure 29 and paste, there will be markers at measures 30, 31, and 32.

Anderton
 
For example, suppose you have markers at the beginning of measures 20, 21, and 22. Now suppose you select in the timeline above the track view from measures 19 to 23, then copy special and select only markers.
 
Now if you place the now time on measure 29 and paste, there will be markers at measures 30, 31, and 32.

Thanks. In your example you still deal with consecutive number. In any Windows software (unless you want use "paste") delete function and cut function are identical. Why would that be different in Sonar ?  I find the ability to move selected markers very useful. In my projects markers often represent the chord structure of a song and I need to be able to change it quickly.

Chord Library is a tool I yet have to embrace, thanks for the tip. Still it seems the way CUT SPECIAL works on markers is odd, I would rather consider it a bug.
 

Atsuko

Anderton
 
I take a different approach that doesn't use markers. I created a "chord library" of single-chord audio files (major, minor, 7th, 6th, dim, aug, etc. etc.) that I drag into a project to define a song's chord progression. I move these around to define changes in the chord progression, and there are some other advantages (like non-contiguous selection and grouping).

Hi, Craig, could you elaborate more on this?
Thanks!!

Sure. I'll try to make a long story short...I have sampled guitar chords from a '57 reissue Les Paul in 13 different chord shapes (major, minor, augmented, diminished, 7th, 6th, major 7th, 9th, etc. etc. ) and for all 12 keys. They live in the Media Browser, and I can call up the library from the drop-down menu. Each chord lasts about 5 seconds.
 
I dedicate two tracks, and bring chords into them alternately to create a chord progression. SONAR's browser is great because you can turn off "preview as loop" and "preview at host tempo," so you can play a project and then when you're looking for the right "next chord," just click until something sounds right. There have been a couple songs where I was happy enough with the sound of the chords I didn't play a "real" part. Here's a good example of a song that was written entirely using the chord library, and all the rhythm guitar power chords are the library chords with a little distortion:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuE55rwiQ9s
 
The hardest part is getting really good samples of the chords, but I have a cool trick for that...another story, for another time 

It appears that SONAR only recognizes duration on the timeline (even in the Markers View) and not the actual markers specifically (although it will paste in the "new" markers on the timeline respectively).

Anderton
 
Here's a good example of a song that was written entirely using the chord library, and all the rhythm guitar power chords are the library chords with a little distortion:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuE55rwiQ9s
 
The hardest part is getting really good samples of the chords, but I have a cool trick for that...another story, for another time 

Great production! I liked that backward guitar!! Just really good sounding guitar throughout song.