johnbalich
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Sonar X3 for MAC
Will future editions of Sonar ever be MAC compatible?
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MachineClaw
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/13 15:10:48
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The Bakers have repeated that there are no current plans for a Mac version of Sonar.
maybe in the future but I would not hold my breath or wait for it, you might be waiting forever.
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dubdisciple
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/13 16:03:26
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I would be shocked. Competing with Logic now being priced at $299 would make it an uphill struggle. An expensive uphill struggle.
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/13 16:30:30
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dubdisciple
I would be shocked. Competing with Logic now being priced at $299 would make it an uphill struggle. An expensive uphill struggle.
I agree! The Mac music software market is already so competitive that I believe Cakewalk have been estimating the realistic profit not being worth the cost of admission. I think the situation now is pretty much the same today as in the early 2000's. I also think that a significant portion of Cakewalk's New User target market consists of the "already got a computer" crowd.
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/13 22:26:17
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Well, Michael Hoover did say in a quick Computer Music Magazine interview that although he thought that there would be no MAC version of SONAR, that it was much more likely that there would be something new created for that platform.
I agree -- it's tough to compete with LOGIC at it's price point (which is actually $199), but I really don't think there's much other choice -- it seems to me that even though there are large number of Windows users, the 'consumer momentum' does seem to be with the MAC, especially when it comes to DAW's. It seems that SONAR is now the lone holdout as the only major DAW that is not cross-platform now. Yeah, I know -- LOGIC isn't either, but hey, it's Apple, and they are trying to sell their boxes.
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/13 23:33:39
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Well, on the other hand, Logic lost an estimated 70,000 users when it became mac only.
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/13 23:37:02
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forkol
- it seems to me that even though there are large number of Windows users, the 'consumer momentum' does seem to be with the MAC, especially when it comes to DAW's. It seems that SONAR is now the lone holdout as the only major DAW that is not cross-platform now. Yeah, I know -- LOGIC isn't either, but hey, it's Apple, and they are trying to sell their boxes.
Yup it's different. That's a great position to be in...
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/13 23:50:42
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swamptooth
Well, on the other hand, Logic lost an estimated 70,000 users when it became mac only.
its time for Cakewalk to gain these 70,000 users 
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/14 17:30:02
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swamptooth
Well, on the other hand, Logic lost an estimated 70,000 users when it became mac only.
I was one of them. I bought an Atari 1040 to be able to run Emagic Notator. There was no way I was going to buy an expensive Mac.
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dubdisciple
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/14 18:12:43
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Sorry about thr price gaffe
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slartabartfast
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/14 18:25:38
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I have been assembling pretty hot Windows machines for myself as the need arises for well under $500.00 for the past couple of decades. You can buy a lot of software for the price difference between those machines and a similarly capable Apple. I have never really understood the Apple appeal, "when you care enough to spend the very most"... The real question is when the other DAW and plugin developers are going to make their stuff work on an inexpensive Linux distro running on a generic machine. At that point Windows-only will be a major disadvantage.
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/14 18:29:00
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pbognar
swamptooth
Well, on the other hand, Logic lost an estimated 70,000 users when it became mac only.
I was one of them. I bought an Atari 1040 to be able to run Emagic Notator. There was no way I was going to buy an expensive Mac.
Count me in this group...
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dubdisciple
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/14 18:35:59
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I think the hesitancy with linux for developers is low to mid level users of linux expect free products. Linux does work for some high end specialized products where the limited market makes an expensive product that needs absolute raw power a practical reason to develope on linux. I don't see the typical Ubuntu user shelling out Sonar money. Maybe if cross-platform license was included.
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dubdisciple
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/14 18:42:21
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I also think platform jumping when you already have a potential user base in the millions is a short term desperation move in Cakewalk's position. The DAW market is so crowded that the only way to gain headway is by creating buzz whether it's true or not. I have a friend that is throughly convinced that studio one is going to replace pro tools in big studios and we all will eventually switch as well. His music sounds exactly the same as before but that kind of hype is the sort of thing that makes otherwize rational people switch to a product that is radically better than what they had.
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danardf
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/15 01:47:48
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A such job for the portability Windows to OSX should be amazing.
But i think it will be great to see Sonar X(n) under OSX.
It's not so idiot.
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/15 04:59:40
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slartabartfast
I have never really understood the Apple appeal, "when you care enough to spend the very most"...
Wow - just reviewing this thread and bingo - one for the sig lines! Nice! 
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/15 06:43:08
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I see those with MAC's that are running Windows with the MAC's and Sonar. As that apparently works OK, I don't see a (cost effective) reason for them to develop a specific MAC version.
And I agree that I can buy or build an equivalent Windows hardware machine for a quarter to a third of the price of an equivalent MAC.
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gswitz
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/15 07:03:21
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Now, Linux on the other hand... ;-)
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danardf
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/15 09:49:18
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OSX and Windows are not the same.
About hardware, Apple is very good. No fan, no noise. So it's great.
I bought an IMAC 27" for 550€ .... so it's really great for Sonar.
If Sonar was developed with a specific language under Windows which doesn't exist under OSX, then the difficulties are with its portability.
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Re: Sonar X3 for MAC
2014/11/15 11:52:38
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danardf
OSX and Windows are not the same.
About hardware, Apple is very good. No fan, no noise. So it's great.
I bought an IMAC 27" for 550€ .... so it's really great for Sonar.
If Sonar was developed with a specific language under Windows which doesn't exist under OSX, then the difficulties are with its portability.
It's rather more like OSX was developed under a strange language - particularly objective C. Little choice on the Mac for developing native Cocoa applications. As far as I can tell - Sonar doesn't appear to be using a custom (portable) windowing library API, which is what's required to get it to run on dissimilar OSs. Then again, neither is Logic.
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