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2014/11/15 20:50:14 (permalink)

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Paul Stanley's voice is busted.
 
They hired guys to replace Frehley and Criss (though they're much more reliable performers - I always loved Eric Singer's work with Black Sabbath and, to a lesser extent, Alice Cooper, not to mention KISS themselves in the 90's).
 
And as Gene Simmons himself said it - rock is dead.
 
Besides, serious musicians and grown ups should despise KISS...
 
 
Maybe that's one of the reasons I like them, besides a certain nostalgia - they remind me not to get all caught up and uptight, or to take myself too seriously, and why I got into music in the first place.
 
I've never seen them and in spite of everything, I guess I had to see them at least once in my life, even if just for the experience and the amazing stage show they put on. And they're here on residency, so it's not like I couldn't find an opportunity...
 
So my wife bought us a pair of tickets for next week - right up front!!
 

 
I bet it'll be fun. :P
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: I know... 2014/11/16 06:21:20 (permalink)
Enjoy the show Rain! I'm sure it will be a good time! Let me know if they still play "Parasite" live. I was a huge fan in the '70's. Between my brother and me, we had all the albums. I wish I still had them, especially The Originals set. Have fun!
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Re: I know... 2014/11/16 06:45:11 (permalink)
Have a crazy, crazy night!  

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Re: I know... 2014/11/16 14:02:19 (permalink)
Just remember:
 
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Re: I know... 2014/11/16 15:33:32 (permalink)
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Enjoy the show Rain! I'm sure it will be a good time! Let me know if they still play "Parasite" live. I was a huge fan in the '70's. Between my brother and me, we had all the albums. I wish I still had them, especially The Originals set. Have fun!



The setlist seems not to change much so far...
 


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Re: I know... 2014/11/16 20:56:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/11/16 23:33:06
First and only time I saw them was at the Forum in LA in 1976. It was their first tour headlining. I was a senior in high school and a buddy of mine's older sister lived in LA and scored us 3rd row in front of Gene. I haven't been the same since that show. Whether the change was for the better or worse had been the subject of debate among family members for decades. You've been warned.
 
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Re: I know... 2014/11/16 20:58:33 (permalink)
Wear flame re-tardant clothes if you sit close (or, at least you needed to back in the 70's and 80's!).

 
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Re: I know... 2014/11/20 02:40:10 (permalink)
KISS will go down in history books as the only band EVER who had me shaking off my natural composure and singing along at the top of my lungs... Not just once, but for the whole damn show!
 
I really felt like I was 12 years old tonight! (And my voice is busted, as a result of which I guess I do sound like a 12 years old.)
 
We were like twenty odd feet from the stage, so we were immersed into it. The setlist was similar as that I posted earlier.
 
Paul's voice is as busted as I knew it was, but he managed it relatively gracefully for most of the show - exception made of Hell or Hallelujah, the end of which was uncomfortable, and a few sour notes here and there. 
 
Gene's voice is actually pretty good, and hasn't changed that much.
 
Tommy Thayer is a solid, reliable, no non-sense old-school rock guitarist, and he did a good job with back vocals, covering up for Paul a bit in choruses.
 
As I said, I always dug Eric Singer - and he surprised my wife and I with a very solid vocal performance on Black Diamond.
 
But, really - they had me at Detroit Rock City. :)
 
I'm off to listen to Alive and Alive II. :)
 
 

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Re: I know... 2014/11/20 05:31:21 (permalink)
So...  where is the iPhone video???    

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Re: I know... 2014/11/20 08:58:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/11/20 14:41:41
Karyn, Rain stated in another fred that his iPhone is an older model that makes things look retro.
 
Wait. I see what you did there...
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Re: I know... 2014/11/20 14:26:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/11/20 14:41:35
Rock isn't dead, it's just taking an afternoon nap like its fans do now.

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Re: I know... 2014/11/20 15:48:11 (permalink)
Unfortunately that high range corrodes with age even for the best male singers. It's a real problem for a lot of those early metal squealers who were in their early twenties when they were rockin' it but are now... well... a lot older. As a vocalist (and someone who smoked way too much) I learned very quickly that if I wanted to be able to perform my tunes without straining and cracking as I aged I best write them to be in a lower register.
 
Paul also had that underlying raspiness/wheeziness that seems to really make a high pitch vocalist lose their range more quickly. An extreme example is Brian Johnson of AC/DC. His voice seemed to crap out for the high stuff live almost as soon as he joined the band but he covers it alright and really AC/DC is more about the guits and simple plodding beats so who cares. Axl Rose? He went downhill fast. Dickinson has held on pretty well but that stuff is so crazy and he's running around like such a looney tune dropping a couple of those ultra high wails is understandable (but he definitely covers well by just hitting another appropriate note be it an octave, fifth or whatever).
 
I think that's why a lot of metal has turned to more low end gutteral grunts and growls. Much easier to pull off live and still act like a maniac. It's a little... uh... manlier too which Mr. Stanley kind of... well... um... no.
 
God of Thunder and Dr. Love are my favorite Kiss songs... both lead by Gene.
 
Cool you got to see them.
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Re: I know... 2014/11/20 18:52:27 (permalink)
I dig Dr. Love - but unfortunately it wasn't on the setlist. 
 
God of Thunder was, obviously. I can't help trying to imagine if Ezrin hadn't forced Paul's hand and convinced him that Gene had to sing that one. I totally get how Paul could have thought that this was his theme song. I do like his version.
 
One odd thing is that for whatever reason, I'd always imagined Stanley to be bigger than that - at least as big as I am, you know, with relatively wide shoulders. Though he's tall, he's actually built on a pretty narrow frame. There's something very teenager-esque about him. That being said, I hope I'm as fit as he seems to be when I'm his age.
 
As for the rest, I guess it'd be bad news for the youth if a 62 years old could still sing the way he did in his 20s and 30s. IMHO, he kept his voice much longer than many other classic rock singers - his performance on Unplugged (mid 90s) was pretty impressive. 
 
But eventually, a voice dries up - that vibrato slows down and becomes exaggerated and no matter how hard you try, those notes just won't come out.

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Re: I know... 2014/11/20 20:18:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/11/21 15:37:49
Glad you had a good time, Rain!
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