Trad Pop/Big Band

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2014/11/23 01:05:15 (permalink)

Trad Pop/Big Band

Here's my (NON-vocal) arrangement of 'Let It Snow'.  It's pretty dry at the moment, no reverb, but I'm looking for suggestions on mixing and recording based on this. In its current state, this is for a LIVE performance, so any details in that regard would be useful.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s...et_It_Snow-Final01.mp3
 
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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/23 05:21:32 (permalink)
    That sounds good, it should work well for what you need it for.
     
    maybe after the gig you could record the lead and vocal parts and create a produced and studio finished version..  It would be a breath of fresh air for the Songs forum.

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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/23 05:29:58 (permalink)
    I'm sure the file is safe but do you have a link where I dont need to D/L it to listen?
     
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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/23 09:57:59 (permalink)
    Youtube: http://youtu.be/mMjikHgwOIE
     
    Thanks for the tips, Karyn! I'm actually really happy with how it came out, and I'm pretty sure I would have had a much harder time without your guidance. We'll definitely be doing a vocal version in the coming weeks.
     

     
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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/23 12:23:56 (permalink)
    I'm with Tom, I want to listen but I don't do the download thing just to listen.  I am kind of excited to hear it so do a Soundclick or Soundcloud, Box or any of the others.  I know you've done that before cause I have listened to your music. 

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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/23 16:32:26 (permalink)
    evadianepug
    I'm with Tom, I want to listen but I don't do the download thing just to listen.  I am kind of excited to hear it so do a Soundclick or Soundcloud, Box or any of the others.  I know you've done that before cause I have listened to your music. 

     
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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/23 17:22:20 (permalink)
    nice, David
     
    brass/sax has a nice 'bite' to it as is (something the sample libraries are missing imo)
    I wouldn't add a lot of eq, and if I added reverb at all it would be VERY minimal.
     

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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/23 21:35:34 (permalink)
    yea...loved it!!!....great stuff!!
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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/23 21:35:36 (permalink)
    Thanks for listening, tom. What kind of reverb is recommended? Long/Short?
    post edited by davdud101 - 2014/11/23 21:58:07

     
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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/25 19:08:27 (permalink)
    I would not add much reverb either if any. What I would do is give more space to the instruments by panning them more around the center. A little offset from center for piano, and mixing the horns (saxes then) like an orchestra would be live or at least off of the center until spread to the left and right, different parts in different pans.
    Imagine placing the instruments on the sound stage and adding the amount of reverb (or echo) that makes it a 3D stage perhaps.
    L and R speakers are suppose to be a 3D sound stage with some sounds a little more distanced from the single point say of the conductor than others with a bit more reverb and perhaps a bit less volume. Well, the imagining of such an environment, including it in the place perhaps if you can where it will happen - to listen to it there also.
     
    Right now to me it sounds too left and too right with a hole in the middle. The voice to me just can not be the only thing there even if it is a bit more reverb or what I would do with some of the parts pan it more towards the middle like 50 left - 20 right for a part or 50 right - 20 left for another part and so on.
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    And it all has been done before, but perhaps a video more in the center of the sound stage would help, but again, here's something different.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qukRwWSXYXw
     
    post edited by spacealf - 2014/11/25 19:17:58

     
     
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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/26 13:17:50 (permalink)
    I used to play bass in my high school jazz band, and we did music like this from time to time.  It takes special skill to mix a horn ensemble, but you pulled it off.  This is very nostalgic for me, and I love it.

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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/26 13:54:36 (permalink)
    It sounds very nice. I prefer not to make changes in mix when the whole track is not ready. But if I'd imagined that vocal is already there, I'd tried to add little bit of ambience (short reverb) on all winds and place it on a second line on the stage (more distance) and make it a little bit smaller.
    Waiting for vocals :-)
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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/27 13:03:49 (permalink)
    I am with Spacealf in that the sound staging needs to be better arranged, for me here it was slightly right heavy with little in the middle.  I did a total pan reversal and it ended up left heavy if you understand my furry ways.  As to any reverb I would only use a general shared reverb that would just place everything in it own space within the space.
     
    Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/27 14:05:28 (permalink)
    Thanks for the knowledge, guys! I'm glad you enjoy the track, it was a pleasure to record :)
    I definitely agree myself on that I could separate the individual instruments a bit more. I ran with the suggestion to carve out a space in the middle, but I don't think I went WIDE enough, nor central enough. I'll work on that.
    Wookie, when you say it's 'right-heavy', you're saying the entire mix is weight towards the right? I (think) the rhythm section and the saxes were all panned right, so I can see why that'd be. I'll try to balance that out to be a bit more central.

     
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    Re: Trad Pop/Big Band 2014/11/27 16:52:02 (permalink)
    Yes, I would bring the Sax in as suggested above at between 25 to 35% on the right and do the same with piano on the left.

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