VC-64 and other removed features

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2014/11/29 20:40:56 (permalink)
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VC-64 and other removed features

I think it would be terrific if Cakewalk would make the dll files for the removed VSTs like VC-64 available to just place in the VST folder so we don't have to go back and reinstall X2. I had to do a partial reinstall of X2 to get R-Mix back and now I'll have to do the same for VC-64. One of you guys want to just shoot the dll to me? Thanks
 
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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/11/29 20:46:40 (permalink)
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    When X3 was released there was a discussion about creating a separate installer for legacy plug-ins. IIRC, most of the legacy plug-ins could be included but there contractual reasons why some of the discontinued plug-ins could not be repackaged.
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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/11/30 08:06:52 (permalink)
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    I don't know that it needs to be repackaged, but access to an FTP site with the dll might be nice, rather than having to go through the installer routine again. But thanks. That's what I'll do. And thanks for the reply.

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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/11/30 15:03:04 (permalink)
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    I can confirm what scook says - contractual issues often enter into what can be done with third-party plug-ins.

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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/11/30 18:11:09 (permalink)
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    So who owns the VC plugin?
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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/11/30 18:13:20 (permalink)
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    Two months ago I replaced the OS disk and installed all anew.
     
    No longer needed the triple boot option on this computer.
     
    (Took more than two weeks to get everything installed and updated.)
     
    I now have 4 versions of Sonar installed, with all the stuff that came with them. And stuff that came before, such as Vsampler, which I still use.
     
    Uninstalling previous versions causes all kinds of sadness.
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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/11/30 22:38:24 (permalink)
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    No kidding. And that's my point. I recently did a full OS reinstall with reformatting. Until that point I had all 3 Sonar X Producers on the machine and access to all previous plugins. Now I only have X3 installed but I still paid for the previous versions so it would be nice if the legacy plugins [that to my knowledge don't have sunsets on them] were available without having to go through a reinstall, however limited, of previous versions. I'm just saying it would be nice if we could just grab the dll from an FTP server or something. Just a convenience thing.
     
    And one of the guys on one of the Facebook groups [where I originally posted this] said he can't even open his songs in X3 if they have VVocal on them because he doesn't have VVocal anymore. He said they were bounced to clips and frozen so that makes no sense to me. That's a problem, but he may have other issues.
     
    Anyway, thanks for the responses.

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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/12/01 10:54:01 (permalink)
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    How about if they were located, or connected to the Accounts pages under 'Your Orders,Serial Number, Registration numbers', then only those who had registered them before could download them. 
     
    I'm on the brink of setting up a new laptop. I'd like to do a stripped down version. Allow me to focus on the plugs that I do use. But it would be nice to if I changed my mind and wanted to expand it later to have a choice.
     
    I had V-Vocal, but never got my head round it, I don't think I'd install it, but for all I know I may have a problem in 6 months time and someone will say 'have you got v-vocal, that will fix it'

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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/12/01 11:04:30 (permalink)
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    That would constitute repackaging. It would be delivered in a format other than the original installer. I know it is a simple request and would be easy to do but when lawyers and contracts get in the mix, the simple may not be possible.
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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/12/12 16:56:15 (permalink)
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    If you still have the previous versions, run setup and just select the plugs you want.
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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/12/15 10:10:12 (permalink)
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    8.5 is on disk for me. Disc drives seem to be phasing out.  Not all laptops have them, I'm going to change mine for a SSD at some point. Download speeds making posting a disc outdated.Imagine Sonar 6X and someone saying, if you have the discs. Will people really have disc drives on new machines in 3 years time. Yet a clean install on a operating system not envisaged at the time the 8.5 was created will mean you have to forget some little gems you have paid the licence to use.
     
    Surely their is another solution to this than installing old discs. We are licensed to use this stuff.

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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2014/12/15 12:14:58 (permalink)
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    I have copied all the disks to the hard disk.
     
    I have a series of folders in which I keep all the installation files, and original downloaded programs/plugs.
     
    I usually delete the installation folder after installation. And just keep the original.
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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2015/01/19 00:56:59 (permalink)
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    But can't we still go to our accounts and download from the list of purchases?  Why not move or copy that over to the 3C?  Or why not at least make available what other content which is not held by third-party license/contract?  Surely, all Cakewalk plug-ins can be added.  So what gives?
     
    Kind regards,
     
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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2015/01/21 00:10:07 (permalink)
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    Plugins that are like that, that is. 3rd party plugins or technologies, are licenced to be packaged with particular versions of Sonar in this case. The licence is non expiring but is associated with the version with which it came. So you're not being stopped from installing and using it, you just have to install it in the way it was packaged, that is, for sale within that Sonar version.

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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2015/01/21 00:42:09 (permalink)
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    So then all downloaded versions of SONAR can be made available in the 3C, thus all included plugins.  So what's the hang up?

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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2015/01/21 00:49:22 (permalink)
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    This feature request is not about downloading complete versions of SONAR using C3. There is another request about that topic.
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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2015/01/21 01:03:31 (permalink)
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    So who owns the VC plugin?


    VC-64 was a Cakewalk reskin of Kjaerhus Audio's Golden Audio Channel (http://www.kvraudio.com/product/golden_audio_channel_gac_1_by_kjaerhus_audio). That company,  which was either a one-man shop or very very small, went out of business years ago, leaving behind an angry throng of users who could no longer activate any plugin they bought directly from Kjaerhus with its challenge-response scheme.
     
    I don't know if Cakewalk has the ability to contact the company's founder and secure any additional rights for VC-64, but honestly, there are much better plugs out there these days.
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    Re: VC-64 and other removed features 2015/01/21 02:21:01 (permalink)
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    It's been discussed a myriad times already. But. The owner has not been able to be reached. It's like he got in his rocket ship and left the planet. Really, no one knows how to get in touch with him. So Cakewalk are stuck not having the right to do anything further with the IP.

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