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Slate VRM - An interesting review

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/11/30 14:59:12 (permalink)


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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/11/30 15:46:29 (permalink)
Been demoing this for about a week now. I like it and would have bought it if I hadn't spent my cash on a guitar (PRS SE 245). I like both the eqs and the comps aren't bad either. I don't need this, but I'd love to have it. May have to wait until the next sale in a few months.

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/11/30 15:52:44 (permalink)
I've downloaded the demo but didn't get to install it. I don't like to install things unless I seriously consider buying them, and I already have a couple of FET models, as well as SSL and Neve ones.
 

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/11/30 17:07:12 (permalink)
@McQ
 
I believe they are working on getting VCC to be included in VMR.
 
Besides all that, VCC has never been glitchy for me. 
 
Then again, I am adolt when it comes to this stuff. 
 
Mebee I use all wrong.
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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/11/30 17:21:39 (permalink)
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@McQ
 
I believe they are working on getting VCC to be included in VMR.
 
Besides all that, VCC has never been glitchy for me. 
 
Then again, I am adolt when it comes to this stuff. 
 
Mebee I use all wrong.




The only issues I've experienced w/ VCC (bearing in mind that I've only had it for a couple of weeks) are:
 
Lack of an AAX version
Enabled "Group" status isn't reflected in copied instances of the plug-in. Not sure if that's exclusive to the AU version or not. 
 
I imagine they're working on a AAX compatibility update which should also provide a bunch of bug fixes.
 
 
 
 

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/11/30 17:27:07 (permalink)
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You are an adult, which suggests to me that you can read the letters where Stevie admits he's been ignoring several nasty issues with VCC for too long.

As far as VMR goes, the first video demos showing how awesome it is date from 2 years ago. I may try it some day but reading reviews that amount to "I used it so you might like it" isn't going to be what makes it happen.



You got to hate it when people with credentials post an informative review with audio exemples and all.
 
I'm sure every one would much rather read how some guy on a forum feels about the company. That's very helpful, not to mention relevant...
 
Especially when that fellow is an ace reviewer himself.
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3124497
 
Talk about an informative, in-depth "review"...
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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/11/30 18:52:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mike_mccue 2014/11/30 19:25:50
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You are an adult, which suggests to me that you can read the letters where Stevie admits he's been ignoring several nasty issues with VCC for too long.

As far as VMR goes, the first video demos showing how awesome it is date from 2 years ago. I may try it some day but reading reviews that amount to "I used it so you might like it" isn't going to be what makes it happen.



You got to hate it when people with credentials post an informative review with audio exemples and all.
 
I'm sure every one would much rather read how some guy on a forum feels about the company. That's very helpful, not to mention relevant...
 
Especially when that fellow is an ace reviewer himself.
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3124497
 
Talk about an informative, in-depth "review"...




 
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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/01 00:22:42 (permalink)
I picked them up day 1 after reading reviews by people who were comparing them against the UAD comparable plugins. Not a single regret and I love how it's open ended for more modules in the future. The only thing that would make it better IMO would be if they made it prochannel compatible. ;)
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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/05 19:34:54 (permalink)
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@McQ
 
I believe they are working on getting VCC to be included in VMR.
 
Besides all that, VCC has never been glitchy for me. 
 
Then again, I am adolt when it comes to this stuff. 
 
Mebee I use all wrong.




The only issues I've experienced w/ VCC (bearing in mind that I've only had it for a couple of weeks) are:
 
Lack of an AAX version
Enabled "Group" status isn't reflected in copied instances of the plug-in. Not sure if that's exclusive to the AU version or not. 
 
I imagine they're working on a AAX compatibility update which should also provide a bunch of bug fixes.
 
 
 
 

That's the deal breaker for me. I'm not buying another Slate product until the overdue AAX version of VCC is out.

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/06 23:22:58 (permalink)
A tiger cannot change his stripes. A leopard cannot change his spots. And, alas, a donkey must remain an ass. YMMV.

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/07 14:51:34 (permalink)
Made the mistake of downloading the demo. Now I see if I eat my words.

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/07 15:57:31 (permalink)
Mod Bod
Made the mistake of downloading the demo. Now I see if I eat my words.



I've downloaded it but made the brilliant decision of not installing it. :P
It's still there on the external HD though...

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2014/12/07 16:34:40 (permalink)

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/07 16:36:05 (permalink)
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Same old, same old...
 



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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/07 16:46:31 (permalink)
I guess I get the freebie. Really, I have several versions of the 1176, SSL eq, Neve eq covered by UAD and Waves. Not going to say, not ever but definitely not yet.

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/07 17:15:06 (permalink)
So Dave, 
 
The freebie is worth it?
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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/07 17:25:50 (permalink)
My VCC is not broken. AFAIK it's the AEXEX verison that's broken. I ent no iTool user.
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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/07 17:36:53 (permalink)
The Revival plug comes with the VMR so there's no need to wait on the AAX version of the VCC . Another thing is that I find virtual mix racks like the pro channel not as handy as others seem to. Waves has got their version as well.

I like to be able to look globally at a mixer view and see which tracks have a compressor or a type of eq on them without having to open up virtual rack.

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/07 17:40:43 (permalink)
Well then, if you only use the Revival plug in VMR you know what's on the track.
 
So Dave, you must not be a fan of the Pro Channel either?
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2014/12/07 17:57:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/12/07 17:52:03

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/07 18:02:21 (permalink)
I call that squeezing the balloon.
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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/07 22:13:46 (permalink)
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Well then, if you only use the Revival plug in VMR you know what's on the track.
 
So Dave, you must not be a fan of the Pro Channel either?


That's what I'm thinking.   Yes, I'm not a big fan of the Pro Channel.  I like the FX bin because I can see all the plugs in play.  I wish that the FX bin in the mixer could be made larger so that more plugins could be visible.

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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/08 08:43:02 (permalink)
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I like to see all my inserts and sends at one glance too.
 
I've been warming up too Cubase lately because I like the extra tools it has for starting a project with Song Key definitions and tempo mapping. When it's time to mix I am reminded that the inserts and sends are hidden from the arranging window and I think about how there is no 2014+ DAW that just becomes transparent and lets me work without thinking about the fact that it's in my way.
 
I moved a project from Cubase 7.5 to PT 11 yesterday and was instantly appreciative of the ability to see the inserts and sends at one glance.




That's the one huge thing I like about PT as well. It's not enough to even consider switching, but I do like it.
 
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Re: Slate VRM - An interesting review 2014/12/08 15:07:09 (permalink)
I like Logic's dynamic mixer - changes as you add effects and busses. And also lets you see compression and EQ at a glance. A screenshot I found on the web (mine wouldn't have icons turned on). Only one buss active but the view is adjusted to show more as you add more.
 

 
Even the Pro Tools mixer seems a bit rigid by comparison, though I'm really getting to like PT.

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