John T
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Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
It's often useful to have more than one EQ on a track. For example, one before a compressor and one after.
Obviously, it's easy enough to achieve this with other EQ VSTs in the FX bin or an FX Chain module, but you know, the Quad Curve is really good and simple and flexible, and it would be nice to be able to use it in those cases.
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/05 12:00:40
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+1
Even a "Quad Curve Junior" with just HP and LP would work OK, at least the majority of the time (for me).
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John T
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/05 12:30:31
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For my purposes, I'd usually need the full thing. But actually, a simple filter module would be a good Pro Channel addition in itself.
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/06 03:25:45
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Yeah I like this idea. TBH it's strange we can't already given that we can with just about every other PC module.
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/06 06:24:48
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FastBikerBoy
I fail to see what's wrong with the current set up. The PC is there for those who want to use it, and the FX bin is there for those that want that. Or a combination of both of course.
(from http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3123977 ) ProChannel in its current definition is the "next version" of "Effects", so has one EQ and one Compressor. You disagree with an idea to call in FX bin, but support an idea to make it FX bin 
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/15 21:53:49
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I would also add that I would like to be able to remove the quadcurve from the channel if I'm not using it.
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/16 12:50:35
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azslow3
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I fail to see what's wrong with the current set up. The PC is there for those who want to use it, and the FX bin is there for those that want that. Or a combination of both of course.
(from http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3123977 )
ProChannel in its current definition is the "next version" of "Effects", so has one EQ and one Compressor. You disagree with an idea to call in FX bin, but support an idea to make it FX bin
Eh? What has adding more than one PC EQ to the PC got to do with the FX bin? In addition my earlier post on FX bin wasn't a "disagree" I can't see what is wrong with having both. That is still valid. Either are there to use as a user sees fit. I use both although the PC is my first preference. I'd like to add a second EQ module to it though.
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azslow3
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/16 15:02:37
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FastBikerBoy
Eh? What has adding more than one PC EQ to the PC got to do with the FX bin?
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I'd like to add a second EQ module to it though.
There is always one (and only one) PC EQ because PC is not FX bin (yet) but old "effect" bin (by definition of the last one). In case EQ can be removed or duplicated, PC will be technically speaking FX bin with extra GUI support. What I want to say is that either we ask for full freedom in PC (the same way it is in FX now) or we ask to keep things as they are (PC is effect, FX bin is different). These approaches are (logically) mutually exclusive...
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/16 15:11:06
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Yes but my point is - so what if there are two FX bins one of which has a different GUI?
A user can ignore either or both or use either or both. Both can be hidden if they are not needed. Removing one just takes away a choice and undoubtedly a preferred workflow for someone.
I'll have no problem with the FX bin being removed, I prefer using the PC because its focus stays with the current track. I just don't see the need to do that. What would it achieve? What bothers you so much about both being there?
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/16 16:47:58
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I do not bother at all... I have just got an idea that there is a small step to merge them to get the best from two worlds.
2 FX bins, apart from confusion and endless "(why) are you (not) using PC?" discussions, only create artificial difference, preventing smooth transfer from one to another. Difficulties in combining both and long standing bugs in ProChannel related Control Surface API are 2 additional reasons why I prefer to see just one "Insert bin".
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/16 17:23:12
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CakeAlexS
I would also add that I would like to be able to remove the quadcurve from the channel if I'm not using it.
I would like that as well, at least you can collapse it though.
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2014/12/17 04:47:05
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Like any fx, we should be able to use multiple Pro Channel modules in any sequence we want.
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2015/01/26 01:02:55
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Yeah, this just came up for me, exactly as mentioned above, wanting a quadcurve before AND after a compressor. As I sat looking at ways to solve it and what EQ I would choose, I suddenly got confused about why there are two paradigms - an effects stack in the primary channel strip and then the add-on prochannel that you have to pop before or after the effect stack. Then we have the work-around thing with the FX Chain, to let us weave non-prochannel plugs into the prochannel. I am starting to feel like it really is a user interface design mess.
In any case, I agree that we should be able to have more than one quadcurve in the PC. I guess what I really wish for is a single container, perhaps designed visually like the prochannel, that could host any of the PC plugs as well "non-prochannel" plugs, without having to hide the non-PC plugs in a container.
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Re: Allow more than one Quadcurve EQ in the ProChannel
2015/01/28 18:36:27
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All restrictions on the Pro Channel should be removed. Not only to use any number of instances of quad-EQ (including none). Also, the default bus and channel compressors exclude each other and are limited to a single instance. Tube saturaton is also limited to a single instance.
I don't think there are any technical reasons for these limitations. It's just the idea of the Pro channel rebuilding a real console, where this kind of limitations would hold.
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Multiple instances of PC EQ
2016/06/08 03:28:12
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Multiple instances of PC EQ and/or at least a second striped down version for low/high cut or shelving. 
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Re: Multiple instances of PC EQ
2016/06/08 04:43:51
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actually I would really welcome if it was possible to "pin" the expanded view of the EQ, and be able to MOVE it around, so that way I could open multiple track EQs :)
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Re: Multiple instances of PC EQ
2016/06/09 19:38:56
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The ability to stack multiple ProChannel compressors would be nice, too!
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Re: Multiple instances of PC EQ
2016/06/09 19:50:10
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It is possible except for the PC76 U-type and PC4K S-type bus compressor. They were written before the modular PC when there was only one slot for a compressor. All the other PC compressors do not have the original PC restrictions.
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Re: Multiple instances of PC EQ
2016/06/09 20:10:06
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It is possible except for the PC76 U-type and PC4K S-type bus compressor. They were written before the modular PC when there was only one slot for a compressor. All the other PC compressors do not have the original PC restrictions.
Sorry, scook, that's what I meant - multiple instances of the stock 76 and/or 4K compressors.
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Re: Multiple instances of PC EQ
2016/06/11 10:15:31
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Strange is that starting a blank project and adding a track will result in a totally empty PC. No QuadCurve, nothing.
So a PC without the QC EQ is technically possible.
But if you then add the QuadCurve, you cannot ever remove it again.
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Re: Multiple instances of PC EQ
2016/06/15 15:02:44
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Strange is that starting a blank project and adding a track will result in a totally empty PC. No QuadCurve, nothing.
So a PC without the QC EQ is technically possible.
But if you then add the QuadCurve, you cannot ever remove it again.
I'm curious how you managed that. When I add an audio track to a blank project it always has default PC modules.
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Re: Multiple instances of PC EQ
2016/06/15 18:49:58
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I have not seen a completely empty PC since X1 expanded. It was buggy back then but works like a watch now. No idea what Mr. Peterson is seeing or why.
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