[SOLVED] X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ?

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2013/10/25 17:23:56 (permalink)
I agree with Javahut 100%.
Just a very poor design. Never thinking we might save dozens of revisions to the same "Project" folder. The assumption was "One folder, one project file". And that assumption was just wrong.
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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2013/10/25 17:28:20 (permalink)
There really isn't much of an argument here unless there's a parallel argument against multiple, versioned project files. Turn off versioning - problem solved. Simple as that.

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2013/10/25 18:11:50 (permalink)
Gobbler needs to scan these files, so there definitely is a point to them. If you delete them, Gobbler doesn't find your project. I also believe it makes sense from the way Gobbler works to have them in the same folder of the project file, though I suppose with some effort this might be changed.

I really don't see the problem to be honest. But I'm not the only Sonar user. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Nonsensical as it may be :p
Seriously, just sort by type, they won't even be in the way anymore, Pick your battles seems the right advice to me.
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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2013/10/25 18:27:57 (permalink)
I agree it could get messy with lots of project revisions in the same project folder, but if you set the folder to sort by file type at least it will bunch them all together and make it easier on the eyes. But yeah a separate assets folder would be ideal if possible.

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2013/10/25 21:33:41 (permalink)
I get that there are now a few uncessary files for those not using Gobbler, which currently includes me, but also that not seeing those extra files isn't exactly an effort.  And only when you actually need to see the folder contents at all.  It just seems so...   minor.   Comparitively speaking.
post edited by stevec - 2013/10/25 21:46:32

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2013/10/25 21:59:06 (permalink)
I had to look at my project folder with Windows Explorer to even notice these! I habitually open projects within SONAR, so they never show in the open dialog anyway...
 
 

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/01/01 02:03:31 (permalink)
It would be useful if it was useful...to everyone...no?
 
Soon we will have pictures of Cakewalk/Gibson Staff showing up in folders. JK guys but IMO its a waste of time having to go and figure out what they are and they cramp my space and style, even if there is a future use for it.
 
I get this sense of Sonar becoming full of bloatware as of late.

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/01/01 04:37:45 (permalink)
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I would venture to say there are many more people who are NOT sharing projects than are. So putting them in the main Project folder because of a few that might share their project, while many people have absolutely no need to see them... but DO need to see the various main Project files... still makes no sense. If you know you want to share your file... then you either know or don't know that you also need to send the 'assets' file with it (along with all the audio files, which BTW are not in the same folder as the project, but have to sent). If you're sending someone your Project to work on... your already know you have to send your audio folder file. Why wouldn't it be just as easy to send an 'assets' folder with it?
 
Yes, it's not a huge deal... it's just a very inefficient waste of screen space, and extra files that have to be dealt with at some point... when they are, in fact, pointless to many , if not most, users. However, the Project files themselves are a main function of Sonar.
 
You don't have to do the right thing by giving them their own 'assets' folder. But it's damn sure not efficient, and is ugly and annoying to look at a new, additional, useless, 'assets' file for every single Project Save I do. Why not just stick all the audio and wave picture files in there to? That way they'll all be 'in one, easy to locate place'.
 
And on top of that... you're even saying that the files don't matter... a new one is created again every time you hit Save. If they don't matter, and we only need them for info, why even create them in the first place. If at some point they're needed by someone to share a project... just put an extra menu function to 'Save w/ Assets'.
 
Whomever thought this was a good design idea was... wrong.


Perhaps it's you that's really wrong here. You have a limited view of the issue because you don't know what Cakewalk has planned for the future.

Surly if you choose to use settings not recommended by MS because it suits you (view hidden files) then surely you are the one that has to deal with the consequences, in this case seeing hidden files that bother you.

In any case you've also said that because you use a different file explorer you can easily deal with the matter. Really think this is arguing for arguing's sake.

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/01/01 06:05:43 (permalink)
There is a setting in Preferences>Files at the last entry regarding asset files. Uncheck this and you should not be bothered by .asset files any longer.

My experiments with opening projects where these files existed, by using Save As new file name into a new project folder the file is saved with no .cwp.asset files added.

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/01/01 08:10:07 (permalink)
Hi Mike,
 
What version of Sonar are you using? I'm running X3b and that option isn't listed in Preferences. I wonder if the Bakers added that in c or d revisions.
 

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/01/01 14:10:38 (permalink)
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There is a setting in Preferences>Files at the last entry regarding asset files. Uncheck this and you should not be bothered by .asset files any longer.

My experiments with opening projects where these files existed, by using Save As new file name into a new project folder the file is saved with no .cwp.asset files added.

mudgel . . . nice find
Cakewalk must have thought it important enough to add this on/off feature, but I can't find it in the X3d "fixes and enhancements" documentation.

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/01/01 15:44:01 (permalink)
I guess mudgel is referring to the Preferences>File>Advanced>"Save Asset Manifests with Projects" line. Aslo answered at post below.
 
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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/01/01 20:30:59 (permalink)
I found it by going through the preferences dialog when I installed x3d. I couldn't find any info in the reference manual or help file. Perhaps it's on the online help files. Then when I saw this thread I remembered having seen the setting and did some experimenting and voila as they say.

I have Gobbler installed so I don't know if this setting is only available because of that or whether it is in x3d by default.

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/01/02 01:31:39 (permalink)
Reported CWBRN-22928
 
Preferences>File>Advanced>"Save Asset Manifests with Projects" is not documented here:
http://www.cakewalk.com/D...;Req=Dialogs2.066.html
 

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/02/07 11:34:44 (permalink)
So glad for this forum as I had no idea what this was and the online help forgot to mention anything about this.  I'm also glad I went right to X3d because not being able to turn off these files would have really pissed me off.
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Re: [SOLVED] X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/02/08 04:11:04 (permalink)
Thank you Mudgel for your solution:
 
"There is a setting in Preferences>Files at the last entry regarding asset files. Uncheck this and you should not be bothered by .asset files any longer."
 
It worked and I didn't expect it to be a simple uncheck mark.  The .asset files were something new since I was a Cakewalk Pro user until a few weeks ago when I needed to upgrade to Windows 8 which requires 3x or other Sonar products.
 
But what about the most likely few who may need to use those files for Gobbler or other future upgrades who like me just started using the new 3x after using .wrk files in Cakewalk Pro for years?  If these users didn't have hidden files activated then they wouldn't know the needed .asset files were even there.  And so since they didn't know the files were there and needed them but since they were hidden they moved the saved .cwp files to another folder one at a time for instance and then eventually deleted the old folder along with the hidden .asset files still in the folder then the .cwp files would not work correctly.
 
I guess my point is, these files are really small anyway and so the information could probably be easily saved within the .cwp files if the option in Preferences/Files/Advanced is checked.
 
Anyway thanks again for the fix.
 
Do you have any ideas how to make a saved .mid file default to the first channel (1) when the .mid file is opened the same as .cwp files?  All my .mid files when opened default to the last channel named "Cakewalk TTS-1" at the bottom of the channel list that is created by 3x when a .mid file is opened.  This is also something new that probably has a simple fix but I just don't know where the option is to stop 3x from creating this channel each time and then the curser going there each time a .mid file is opened instead of channel 1 at the top of the channel list.  The .cwp files default to the top (channel 1) which is how I need the .mid files to open also.
 
Thanks for any information you can provide.
post edited by California2014 - 2014/02/08 04:44:20
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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/12/21 22:19:51 (permalink)
If you go to sonar / edit / preferences / file / advanced / the bottom check box says save asset manifests with projects....deselect...problem solved !!!
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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2014/12/22 09:09:12 (permalink)
Thanks Bakers for providing the option and thanks mudgel for finding it.  I'm glad to be rid of the .asset files.
 
My thoughts for future reference ...
 
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Rather than tell users how to configure their machine in ways that affect usage outside the scope of your application, or worse snark, smart-ass or otherwise attempt to belittle when you've made a bad decision - I suggest listening and paying attention to the concerns and preferences of those that buy and use your software by choice.

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Re: X3a is adding another file with .assets file extension when saving projects ? 2017/02/03 15:57:08 (permalink)
Wooooo ! I just deleted 357 assets files ! I feel much better although I know they will show up again...

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