rodreb
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Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
I'm very curious about this interface and was wondering if anyone has tried it with X3.
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jeffb63
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2014/12/27 06:27:35
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Curious about the whole range myself.
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rodreb
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/07/06 18:08:01
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Bumping this post. Anybody using a MOTU 16A with Sonar Platinum? Or, any of the new MOTU interfaces?
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/07/06 21:22:01
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Seem to be getting a lot of MOTU issues recently. Might not be this model though. Probably best to google to compile the facts..
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/07/06 21:28:38
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LLyons
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/07/07 00:39:04
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I have a 1248 running on an older dual core, win7 and Platnum. It has great converters, really good preamps, easy to update firmware, and my personal favorite, an open industry standard point to point interface in AVB. I'm going to pick up a 8m in a few days to take advantage of recording in any room in the house - I have cat 5 run to about every room, but all the PC's and tablets are wireless. There's two really nice sounding rooms in the house and I have to run snakes to them to use them.. No more.
First impressions. Converters sound great, preamps are very usable (like the large dials to initially tweak), no need to echo and get to the lowest latency, I can record 12 channels for hours at 96k 24 bit (haven't tried 192, no need to for what I am doing) no dropout using USB2, onboard web services are so simple to connect a wireless router to the unit and use a tablet to connect in and create my own individual monitor mix. I am very pleased, but there's so much in the new routing/mix/submix toolset, expect to spend a while on rapping your head around it on one unit, then connected to other units. Two things aren't complete - win thunderbolt, and saving mix setups over USB (you can save over Ethernet however and USB2 is plenty fast).
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L
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/07/07 17:42:53
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Been running the Ultralite AVB for a couple months. Low round-trip latency (4.9ms at 64-sample buffer size/44.1k), good converters (noise-floor ~-110dB), solid drivers, and loads of routing/processing features. At ~$650, the Ultralite AVB is hard to beat. The 1248 has even better converters (noise-floor of ~-117dB). The new MOTU AVB series are excellent choices. You don't have to compromise on low round-trip latency... or sound quality
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rodreb
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/07/07 18:41:50
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The 16A seems about my only choice for (at least) 16 analog inputs at a price that is in my budget (right at the top of it, actually). Just been scared by some of the horror stories I've heard about MOTU with Windows 7. I'd be using it with Sonar Platinum, also. It's really hard to find any info or reviews on this unit. In fact, it doesn't seem like MOTU stuff gets reviewed much at all. That's kinda scary. Magazines don't seem to like to give bad reviews, especially to manufacturers that advertise with them.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/07/07 21:43:51
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Rod, the new MOTU units work just fine under Win7 and Win8. I've had good performance from all my MOTU audio interfaces (8-Pre, 896HD, and Ultralite AVB).
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LLyons
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/07/07 21:45:06
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I've been using MOTU with windows since before Vista and I can honestly say absolutely no horror stories for 12 years. But - I keep my machine off the internet except to connect with Microsoft for OS updates, cakewalk or waves program updates. I haven't added any other software. None. Not sure what has been said negatively, which indeed may have merit, but I simply have not experienced it with my setup, work process or system load. I do not do much MIDI, I rarely use over 30 tracks, I record max at 96k, 24 bit. I don't add a lot of effects until mix down, and I rely on Quemix, now AVB routing so I play it safe on latency issues. With AVB mixing comes a whole slew of advantages when I have the gang over to record.
There was an extensive and long running forum chat out there from just before the AVB launch that had MOTU engineering popping in from time to time, and really laid out the specs, what was done and where the product was headed. For a company to release what was under the hood before launch, and even sharing some things that marketing would run for this hills - figuratively - piqued my interest early on. So far, everything that I recall which was important to me, has been implemented. I am waiting for win thunderbolt, but they have been honest on their support and direction.. I have USB2 and Ethernet, and that's good enough for now.
Your mileage may vary, but I really enjoy MOTU's latest flagship design, support, and direction.
Best Regards
LL
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rodreb
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/07/07 23:57:02
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I'm confused. Why do you need USB AND Ethernet? Why not just USB and done?
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thomasabarnes
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/07/08 04:31:47
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I know that firmware updates for the AVB higher units are done via Ethernet, and PC connectivity via USB for audio, and thunderbolt for ultra-low latency audio connectivity (already for mac, but I think he's saying the drivers for thunderbolt are still being developed for PC). I use a MOTU older audio interface (UltraLite-MK3) and never had any horror stories. The drivers are pleasantly stable and provide good low latency performance even under heavy loaded projects. Got my unit around 2007 or 2008, and it's still running satisfactorily.
post edited by thomasabarnes - 2015/07/08 04:42:13
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/07/08 08:53:33
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rodreb I'm confused. Why do you need USB AND Ethernet? Why not just USB and done?
If you connect the Ethernet port to a WiFi router, you can use a tablet to remotely control the AVB units. Works exactly like the newer generation digital mixers... Because the control applet is browser based, you're not locked into a particular tablet or smart-phone.
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richlion821
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/08/21 19:05:54
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Yes Rob, I just bought the Motu 24AO. I came on here because I have a problem using it with Sonar Plat. When I first got the unit I removed one of my Delta 1010LT cards. I used to get small ticks and pops now and then, because with Win 7 Drivers, they claimed you may have a problem using two cards for 16 channels. I plugged the Motu 24AO, into a USB 3 slot on my computer, it loaded the drivers from the web with no problem, and took about 7- 10 minutes, All the screens came up and it looked great until I started Sonar. The Delta Audio driver popped up but nothing of the 24AO. I re-checked and it said there was no USB connection to a AO unit. I swapped the USB3 with another USB3 socket, and nothing happened until I used a USB2 socket. It sounds great. The other setback was I had to disable the Delta card, you cannot use both when you assign your audio cards in Sonar. The 24AO is for outputs only, and optical inputs (trying next?), I wanted to used the Delta 1010lt card for inputs, and the 24AO for the outputs. I even enabled the onboard motherboard audio card, for audio input, and it doesn't even show up in the Sonar settings with the 24AO connected. Now I have to buy a analog input unit with optical output, or the 24AI (I don't need that many input$) or another Motu unit that works with the 24AO with less inputs and money. Before using the 24AO with Sonar, I could assign any audio device connected to my computer to the outputs or inputs, but synching was a major problem, if used together. When the 24AO is connected with the Delta card, if you check the box of one, the other unit becomes greyed out. I was hoping someone on here knew how to get the audio cards to work with the 24AO together?
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richlion821
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/08/23 02:25:56
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Solved: After coming back on the website, I searched until I found my answer. Only 1 ASIO device can be used at one time on Sonar. So I have to choose between the Delta 1010LT (to record) or the 24AO. I cant record audio with the 24AO, until I buy a A/D ADAT converter. I think I'm going to try the Behringer 8200, they say it sounds better than the 8000. Buy a ADAT optical cable, and a BNC cable to clock the 8200 from the 24AO.
Homebuilt computer: Arock Taichi motherboard , 128 GB RAM, Intel i7 6800 @3.6 Ghz. GTX 1070 video card. 2 monitors on a dual vertical stand, MOTU 24AO interface, 2- Behringer ADA8200's; Win 10 Pro. Sonar Platinum. Cakewalk since Cakewalk DOS. Presonus 32.4.2 AI mixer.
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richlion821
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/08/25 21:13:27
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The Motu 24AO so far is great, coming from 8, then 16 to 24 channels. I tried a few of my songs, and assigned the instruments to as many different output tracks as possible, and I had no problems until I had one song with a loud guitar and a sitar, it dropped out a few bars. I adjusted the communications rate to the lowest latency rate, and it's never drops a note now. Think I'll order the Behringer ADAT 8200 this weekend and add some vocals, and see how that sounds, I'm not spending almost another $1000, for the 24AI. 24 channels seems to be enough output channels for me to mix down from. It also takes up half my mixing board. Happy camper so far. I was ready to jump on the 24AO in January, but there was conflicting specs on where you checked to buy about it's use with Win 7, only Win 8 and above, and no Windows support. After going to Motu website in Mid August, they stated that it was compatible with Win 7 and new drivers were there, so I bought it. The way I record, I never used more than 8 audio inputs at a time, so the 24Ai would be a waste.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: Anybody tried the MOTU 16A yet?
2015/08/26 12:05:11
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richlion821 After coming back on the website, I searched until I found my answer. Only 1 ASIO device can be used at one time on Sonar. So I have to choose between the Delta 1010LT (to record) or the 24AO.
The ASIO spec itself imposes the limit of one ASIO "device". IOW, You'd have the same scenario with any DAW software. Manufactures can get around this limitation by having two (or more) of the same (or same series) audio interfaces sharing a single ASIO driver.
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