I don't care-Mix 5(New)

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2015/01/06 21:24:51 (permalink)

I don't care-Mix 5(New)

Yet another direction for me.
This tune was inspired by my daughter, Stephanie. My wife, Donna, captured a photo of her in a moment of carefree bliss on the beach in Oregon the day before her wedding.
I hope you like it.
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New version 1/28/15
post edited by RobertB - 2015/01/28 17:48:56

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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/06 21:51:12 (permalink)
    I like it Bob, I'm not sure it needs quite so much vibraslap. Definitely needs vocals and a story. Has a bit of a Raygay Buffalo Soldier vibe. Hope you and yours are doing well in 2015, Happy New Year. It has potential, but I don't know if I would slap the word Master on it just yet. 
     
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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/07 02:37:09 (permalink)
    lol. Sonar does that, 'cause I export from the master bus.
    Thanks for listening

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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/07 06:24:24 (permalink)
    Good start Bob. Needs a top line melody..lead guitar perhaps, and/or vocals.

     
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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/07 13:41:14 (permalink)
    What James said it is a good start and needs something to finish it off, thanks for sharing.

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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/08 09:23:35 (permalink)
    Good start Bob.

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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/08 09:27:03 (permalink)
    Yep, I agree with the others on this one. It's a good idea that seems to beg for a melody line on top. I think a simple harmonica may be nice, but what do I know?

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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/09 03:01:03 (permalink)
    fun stuff Robert!! keep on getting it!!
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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/09 13:09:59 (permalink)
    nice bouncy folksy tune - good job!
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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/09 23:55:38 (permalink)
    I'm glad you like it, Robby. I am inclined to agree on the vibraslap. That's going to get pared down to a few select hits.
    Thanks, James. Yeah, it needs something, but I want to keep it very lean. Maybe some lead, especially after 2:00, where it rolls up out of the reggea.
    Thanks, Wookie.
    Thanks, Stan(if that is your real name)
    Thanks, Clint. Simple for sure. I think it need to be more of a glaze than a thick layer. I've been kicking around some kalimba tracks, but harmonica? Hmmm. Might have to think about that.
    Good to see you, Tom. DT has been an inspiration to me, so thanks twice.
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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/10 04:29:42 (permalink)
    I think we are all in agreement this needs a lead of some kind on top. Definitely hear some Bob Marley in this. All sounds good from here. keep on it and let us hear the melody. :) 

     
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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/10 17:54:49 (permalink)
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    I think we are all in agreement this needs a lead of some kind on top. Definitely hear some Bob Marley in this. All sounds good from here. keep on it and let us hear the melody. :) 


    agreed with gus on this. Nice drums i feel they should be a 3db higher.
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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/13 09:17:54 (permalink)
    Aside from some mix refinements, I can almost hear either a synth lead or perhaps tenor sax sitting over top.
     

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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/13 10:51:15 (permalink)
    Nice feel, I'd like to hear a bass line in there.

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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/13 12:56:57 (permalink)
    Thanks, Gus. I'm working on a lead track now. It's not quite ready, but I think you guys are going to like it.
    Drma, thanks for the note on the drums. I've spent a lot more time on the drums than I usually do, and I think it's worth the effort. This features Session Drummer 3 on the left, and EZ Drummer on the right. Lots if fiddling in the PRV. I'll consider raising them a bit.
    Stevec, what sort of mix refinements? I'm open to your thoughts. Thanks for listening.
    Thanks, sixfinger. It's got some bass in places, but I might think about expanding that.

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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/14 20:23:54 (permalink)
    Nice job on this one! I love the way it "skips" along...after I read the description I started to see her out there dancing lol.

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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/14 23:21:13 (permalink)
    Thanks Tim. You know, that "skip" was a happy accident. I was playing a sort of Celtic rhythm to the wrong back beat, and my hands just took me here. Doctored the drums a bit to fit the groove.
    I still need to get the picture from Donna's files. It was a great moment. Yeah, she was dancing.
    Moments before wiping out in the surf, she had handed me her phone. A wave took her and Xander(her son) down, and she lost her glasses. The glasses kind of sucked, but here she is, soaking wet, in a moderately fierce wind, potentially miserable but totally enjoying the moment. She's in free spirit mode, surrounded by the people she loves, on a gorgeous beach, and she is getting married in the morning.
    I'll catch up with the songs you and others have posted, but for now I am focusing on pinning this one down.

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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/21 01:05:23 (permalink)
    Thanks for your suggestions, especially on the lead guitar. I've been having fun with my Riviera P93 on this one. The clean electric, lead, and bass parts were all done with it. The acoustic part is the Martin D18.
    I also brought the drums up some and restrained the vibraslap.
    Edit- revised version.
     
     
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    Re: I don't care 2015/01/28 18:00:56 (permalink)
    Ok, so I wasn't so happy with the last version after all. It was kind of boxy.
    This version(Mix 5), is, to my ears, more musical and better balanced.
    http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13029478
    I have struggled with this mix, probably because I am using compressors more extensively than I have in the past.
    I think it is about where I want it, but any input is welcome.
    This song is a gift to my daughter, for inspiring the moment, and to my sister, for entrusting the Martin to my care.
    Please share any thoughts to help make this song worthy of them.
     
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    Re: I don't care 2015/02/03 21:11:04 (permalink)
    I think this version is where I want it(mix 5).
    Any last thoughts before I send it to Stephanie?
    I'm kicking around the idea of a video. it will be  more of  slide show, as we have only stills from that day on the beach in Oregon.

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    Re: I don't care 2015/02/13 03:01:35 (permalink)
    Hey Robert,
      Having some lead really add more interest to your piece. Perhaps trying to shake the lead guitar sound up a little, ie change sound for a part in the track. You could use a different amp for say the part that you see as the chorus of the tune. just an idea.
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    Re: I don't care 2015/02/14 12:18:13 (permalink)
    Hey Bob!  this is really nice!  great tribute to your daughter.
     
    I think I agree with Gus about trying to "shake up" the lead a little, it kind of almost doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the song.  I might even suggest a clean tone for this.
     
    the area between 1:57 and 2:24 - is that supposed to be a lead playing there?  If so I can barely hear it doing anything and that area seems kind of "dull" if you know what I mean...sorry I don't mean to be harsh, it's just that I started to lose interest in the song there.
     
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    Re: I don't care 2015/02/14 12:45:45 (permalink)
    Bob - we're old pals so I hope I can speak frankly - the lead guitar isn't really cutting it here. I think it either needs a strong melodic hook to centre around and play off, or you really need to rip it up and go for it with some confidence (to echo the story behind the piece) As it is, it's just kinda noodling quietly around, and there are several bum notes. I know you can do better.

     
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    Re: I don't care 2015/02/14 17:18:18 (permalink)
    Hey, if this is background music for a slide show about a day at the beach, I think it's there, no problem. Just kind of a groovy background, it works!
     
    If it's more the meat, and less the mashed potatoes, then I'd spend some time cutting upper bass, boosting lower bass. I also was a little unsure of the beat at times, seemed like you might have two drum vst's running at once, and there was a little flamming on some off-timed beats, particularly right at the beginning.
     
    But none of that is super-critical, as background music, it sure would be a good groove . . .
     
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    Re: I don't care 2015/02/15 22:48:31 (permalink)
    Thanks for the constructive crits, guys.
    Gus, different amp... hmmm... maybe.
    Beagle, aw man.. that's my favorite part. The lead pulls back, and the acoustic and clean guitar take over to pull it up from the Reggae passage. Maybe I need to put more emphasis on the acoustic?
    And the acoustic does wash out from 2:20 to 2:24. I'm trying to figure out what I am doing to cause that.
    James, I am going to take "noodling quietly around" as a backhanded compliment.
    I believe you have used similar terminology to describe the Grateful Dead, and I was definitely in a GD groove.
    That said, I am open to kicking around some ideas. And if a stray guitar track should drift across the pond, I might be inclined to listen to it.
    i'm having a deja vu moment with Kenny and the Fishing Buchanan Creek project.
    And yes, there are a few clinkers that need to be addressed.
    Tom, I think you've hit the crux of the biscuit.
    From the outset, this has been more of a groove than a song. And maybe it needs the slideshow.
    When I listen to it, I can envision the images that you guys can't see. This now serves as inspiration to do the video and complete the vision.
    As for the drums, it is in fact two drum VST's.  They are in the same rhythm, but emphasizing off beats.
    As they come into sync with each other, it's sort of a metaphor for the impending wedding less than 24 hours away. Perhaps it's not translating the way I hear it. And I will listen for just plain odd hits.
    Thanks again, all.
    Tuesday and Wednesday are my days off, and the weather is going to be unpleasant. Perfect time for the studio.
    I'll keep your thought in mind, and see what I come up with.

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    Re: I don't care 2015/02/16 02:49:37 (permalink)
    I can did the kinda free form flow of this. I have to agree with some of the above comments that as a sort of background thing it works. The mix itself sounds ok to me but in the beginning there is a lot going on before it settles into a beat and a flow. 
     
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