Mosvalve
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Can I stay with X3e?
or do I have to upgrade to one the versions? For now I want to keep what I have.
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/14 22:54:21
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Sure you can stay with any previous version of SONAR including X3e. Just like if you elect to upgrade to the new version, you are not forced to renew in 12 months. All versions of SONAR are sold with a non-expiring license.
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TomHelvey
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/14 22:54:46
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No! X3e will automatically self destruct on Jan 21st at 11:59 PM local time. Just kidding 
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/14 22:57:24
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My first impression of the new subscription model is: I HATE it !
Sounds like great way for all the users to pay Cakewalk to be beta testers.
Will owners of X3 be given a reduced price to upgrade ?
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/14 23:02:48
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Mosvalve
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/14 23:10:51
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TomHelvey
No! X3e will automatically self destruct on Jan 21st at 11:59 PM local time.
Just kidding
I think I'm going to self destruct.
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JonD
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 00:00:23
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gaa
My first impression of the new subscription model is: I HATE it !
Sounds like great way for all the users to pay Cakewalk to be beta testers.
Will owners of X3 be given a reduced price to upgrade ?
First impressions really shouldn't be made public until you've at least read the FAQ. The answer to your question is yes (See the pricing chart on this page): https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Versions
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SimpleManZ
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 00:16:03
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At present time, I have Sonar 8.5,X1,X2 and X3 on my PC. I can launch anyone independent of the other. Moving forward, I will have only 'a' Sonar(type)on my PC.
This new model is really not that bad, as you can still use your "old" versions. Unless the new installer cripples all previous ones; they have not said that, as I have read so far.
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scook
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 00:31:27
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Yes, all the previous version will work as before. The new SONAR will also allow you to rollback to any previous release of the new SONAR using Cakewalk Control Center.
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dwardzala
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 09:22:18
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gaa
My first impression of the new subscription model is: I HATE it !
Sounds like great way for all the users to pay Cakewalk to be beta testers.
Will owners of X3 be given a reduced price to upgrade ?
"Subscription" is really an inaccurate term. It implies that once you decide to stop paying, you lose the ability to use the software. This is not the case (except if you are paying monthly and don't complete 12 monthly payments). Once you make 12 payments (or pay the initial lump sum cost) you own the license and no one can take that away from you.
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 10:48:33
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Just like every year when your car's model is updated you HAVE TO BUY IT.
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stevec
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 12:47:28
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I'm now visualizing the financial ability to purchase a new car each year... 
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 15:57:50
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Yea. And the need to expand the storage capacity of the garage.
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audiophil
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 16:24:56
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Its a joke!
If i (X3 Producer) pay $49 for sonar artist, i lose 1 year Melodyne essential, all th synths. if i pay $99 for Sonar Prof, i lose 1 Year All the channel strips, breverb, Tone2, etc. etc. etc.
What have you done?unbelievable
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JonD
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 16:49:57
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audiophil
Its a joke!
If i (X3 Producer) pay $49 for sonar artist, i lose 1 year Melodyne essential, all th synths. if i pay $99 for Sonar Prof, i lose 1 Year All the channel strips, breverb, Tone2, etc. etc. etc.
What have you done?unbelievable
If you own X3 Producer, none of the bundled items expire. They can always be installed separately (doing a custom install from your DVDs or DL files) with X4.
post edited by JonD - 2015/01/15 16:56:15
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dwardzala
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 17:13:29
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JonD
audiophil
Its a joke!
If i (X3 Producer) pay $49 for sonar artist, i lose 1 year Melodyne essential, all th synths. if i pay $99 for Sonar Prof, i lose 1 Year All the channel strips, breverb, Tone2, etc. etc. etc.
What have you done?unbelievable
If you own X3 Producer, none of the bundled items expire. They can always be installed separately (doing a custom install from your DVDs or DL files) with X4.
I think the only thing this might not apply to is Pro Channel, since I don't believe its included in Artist.
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scook
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/15 17:55:31
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Yeah, no ProChannel in Artist
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audiophil
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/16 07:22:52
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scook
Yeah, no ProChannel in Artist
So i`m forced to purchase Platinum, otherwise it will be an downgrade. As i told: It´s a joke!
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fwrend
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/16 07:41:39
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$99 to upgrade to Pro and you LOSE nothing you have now. A VERY fair and reasonable upgrade to the newest version PERIOD
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/16 11:34:37
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$149 is less than 41 cents per day. 'Tis a bargain.
X3 had 5 updates over 6 months.
Now for the same price we are promised 12 months of updates and special stuff.
How can this be wrong?
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Susan G
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/16 12:13:12
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$149 is less than 41 cents per day. 'Tis a bargain.
X3 had 5 updates over 6 months.
Now for the same price we are promised 12 months of updates and special stuff.
How can this be wrong?
Hi- But CW hasn't actually promised something new (fixes or extras) in each of the 12 months, have they? If so, I haven't seen it (quite possible  !) I thought it was more of a "expect more frequent" fixes and extras to be released on no particular schedule during the 12 months. Thanks- -Susan
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/16 12:27:17
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I did not write that we would get stuff every month.
And now that Gibson is involved I am inclined to accept their promise to give me twice the attention for the same money as I got with X3.
And we do not know yet all of the UI improvements already in place.
I bought the last upgrade expecting better support than I got with X2 and I received it.
Paying the same upgrade price for what is already clearly more than I got with X3 is a no brainer.
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Susan G
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/16 12:38:18
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YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
I did not write that we would get stuff every month.
And now that Gibson is involved I am inclined to accept their promise to give me twice the attention for the same money as I got with X3.
And we do not know yet all of the UI improvements already in place.
I bought the last upgrade expecting better support than I got with X2 and I received it.
Paying the same upgrade price for what is already clearly more than I got with X3 is a no brainer.
I know you didn't write that; I was asking to see if I'd missed something because I've been casually wondering what if a month or two went by with nothing new and how those paying month-to-month would feel about that. I don't know what I'm going to do yet about upgrading, but that's crossed my mind. I have no reason to think it will happen and of course I'm sure CW will do their absolute best to keep updates coming, but I can also see where it might not be possible to release something in a given month. Thanks- -Susan
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/16 12:48:02
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gaa
My first impression of the new subscription model is: I HATE it !
Sounds like great way for all the users to pay Cakewalk to be beta testers.
Will owners of X3 be given a reduced price to upgrade ?
Read the FAQ.
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Anderton
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/16 12:49:09
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audiophil
scook
Yeah, no ProChannel in Artist
So i`m forced to purchase Platinum, otherwise it will be an downgrade. As i told: It´s a joke!
Hi Adrasin! ProChannel was never in the base version.
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Re: Can I stay with X3e?
2015/01/16 14:09:19
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Susan G
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
I did not write that we would get stuff every month.
And now that Gibson is involved I am inclined to accept their promise to give me twice the attention for the same money as I got with X3.
And we do not know yet all of the UI improvements already in place.
I bought the last upgrade expecting better support than I got with X2 and I received it.
Paying the same upgrade price for what is already clearly more than I got with X3 is a no brainer.
I know you didn't write that; I was asking to see if I'd missed something because I've been casually wondering what if a month or two went by with nothing new and how those paying month-to-month would feel about that. I don't know what I'm going to do yet about upgrading, but that's crossed my mind. I have no reason to think it will happen and of course I'm sure CW will do their absolute best to keep updates coming, but I can also see where it might not be possible to release something in a given month.
Thanks-
-Susan
I apologize if I seemed a bit strident. You are always polite. Paying by the month is just a convenience for those of us who need it. We got 5 updates for X3 in 6 months. Better than X2. I figger CW/Gibson will give even better service. I think being able to pay 50 for a new copy to use for just one month at a remote location is like way cool.
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