The Maillard Reaction
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When does the 12 months start?
What happens if I buy a pre order now and find out that I'll be happier if I wait to install until the first patch comes out?
When does the 12 months start? When I pay? When I activate?
Hows that work?
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/14 23:36:18
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What happens if I buy a pre order now and find out that I'll be happier if I wait to install until the first patch comes out?
When does the 12 months start? When I pay? When I activate?
Hows that work?
Thanks.
Hey Mike Good question - I'd like to know also Frank
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/14 23:42:22
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Hopefully when the download completes and not when its started, knowing my internet speed here. 
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/14 23:45:43
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☄ Helpfulby Loptec 2015/01/15 05:47:58
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 02:25:53
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So if we purchase today, but you don't supply for a week, it starts a week after that?
Also If I purchase from a third party, does it go on that date, or the date I then register with cakewalk?
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 02:42:59
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Ah, so I purchase from them, they redeem, clock starts, and they supply to me.
Or worse case scenario, they have pre-redeemed a stack and the clock has started.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 02:53:15
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In the past, the third party vendor supplied the purchaser the redemption code. It was up to the purchaser to redeem the product. I don't think this has changed. This makes gifting easy. I doubt the worst case scenario is likely.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 05:58:37
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Scoot
So if we purchase today, but you don't supply for a week, it starts a week after that?
Naa.. The clock probably starts when you do the purchase. You then need to pay for one year from this date to be able to keep it (if you choose to stop paying). If the clock would wait for an update to come before starting this would only mean you'd have to pay for a longer time before the keep-what-you've-got-date. Scoot
Also If I purchase from a third party, does it go on that date, or the date I then register with cakewalk?
Ah.. That's a good question.. I would guess it's from the date they take your money though. Would be nice to know for sure however.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 07:02:44
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For everyone unhappy or uncertain, just wait a few months... clock will start then, and you'll have a couple more months in the subscription...the way I understand it, ya get 12 months from purchase point...
Or go the monthly plan for a month and convert to full pay after the month if you like the changes... you'll most likely loose the month paid but still get the discount and clock will start over (at least that's what I gleen from elsewhere. Seems totally reasonable...
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 07:46:54
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Scoot
So if we purchase today, but you don't supply for a week, it starts a week after that?
Naa.. The clock probably starts when you do the purchase. i
Just re-read what I typed and e had typed the opposite of what I meant
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 07:52:21
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
The day you purchase.
Thank you for the information. Are you explaining that if I buy a preorder from one of your partner vendors today, my 12 months starts today? Even though I can't even download it until the predicted Jan 21 release? What if the release is as smooth as the X1 release, which killed some peoples' (folks like me with ASIO hardware) computers (People had to use disc image restores or reinstall Windows to get the computers to work again), or X3 which seemed to require a quickly released hot patch before it was useful? Are you explaining that he clock is still ticking away while we wait? It seems like starting the clock the day chosen to first activate would be a more valuable policy to an end user. I intend to pay for 12 months up front... I was thinking I'd purchase today... but it seems like I may only get 11 months use out of my 12 month subscription.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 07:56:37
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That's a good question - especially if you buy from a 3rd part like Sweetwater to get the boxed version.
I've always gone thru CW download - so they of course know the instant you buy. Will you enter your purchase date if you buy 3rd party or what?
Seems like it should be first activation - just mechanics wise - to really know when the clock starts.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 12:44:59
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Is 12 months starts when you pay not when you activate the final answer?
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 20:37:26
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
The day you purchase.
Thank you for the information. Are you explaining that if I buy a preorder from one of your partner vendors today, my 12 months starts today? Even though I can't even download it until the predicted Jan 21 release?
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 21:40:25
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
The day you purchase.
Thank you for the information.
Are you explaining that if I buy a preorder from one of your partner vendors today, my 12 months starts today? Even though I can't even download it until the predicted Jan 21 release?
A preorder is not a purchase. At least not the ones I've gone through. Has anyone actually been charged for their preorder ?
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/15 23:33:30
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
The day you purchase.
Thank you for the information.
Are you explaining that if I buy a preorder from one of your partner vendors today, my 12 months starts today? Even though I can't even download it until the predicted Jan 21 release?
A preorder is not a purchase. At least not the ones I've gone through.
Has anyone actually been charged for their preorder ?
I'm sure one from JRRShop would be.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 00:41:10
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2015/01/16 00:50:28
If you buy through a third party, we don't start the 12 month period until you redeem at www.cakewalk.com/redeemThat action is what generates serial numbers, downloads, puts things in your account in command center and starts the clock. If you buy through our store, the moment a transaction is approved and paid for it hits that same delivery system and starts the 12 months.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 00:56:26
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Ahh cool, so we do the redeeming, not the third party?
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 01:57:29
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yes, just like with X3 if it was purchased from a retailer.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 02:17:05
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Cool thanks. I've never bought it from someone else before so wasn't sure.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 05:50:06
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
The day you purchase.
I purchased from Sweetwater Yesterday, but the item will not ship for weeks. So my 12 months starts today regardless?
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 05:53:47
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keep reading, if it is a download http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3147803The purchase of physical media upgrades from retailers has not been discussed but I would guess there is a redemption code used to activate physical media upgrades now or it may still use the old registration process (my money is on a redemption code though). IOW, for the clock to start, there has to be some action associating your Cakewalk account to the purchase. There is no automatic update to your Cakewalk account for purchases made from retailers.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 08:46:43
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Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]
If you buy through a third party, we don't start the 12 month period until you redeem at www.cakewalk.com/redeem
That action is what generates serial numbers, downloads, puts things in your account in command center and starts the clock.
If you buy through our store, the moment a transaction is approved and paid for it hits that same delivery system and starts the 12 months.
Thank you for the information Ryan! In the absence of this useful information I had elected to wait a while to make a purchase. Now I am back to feeling enthusiastic about making an imminent purchase. Thank You.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 09:26:10
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$125.16 @ JRRShop (use coupon code GROUP) for X3 Producer to Platinum upgrade.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 09:47:09
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Thanks bapu,
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if you'll spring for some Good n Plentys and some SnoCaps.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 11:55:01
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McQ
$125.16 @ JRRShop (use coupon code GROUP) for X3 Producer to Platinum upgrade.
I usually purchase stuff from Guitar Center or Sweetwater. Is JRRShop in the same league? I always thought Cakewalk would require vendors not to discount their prices. But what do I know... Walt
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 13:01:39
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Sweetwater sends me candy.
Not even bapu does that.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 13:05:32
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Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]
If you buy through our store, the moment a transaction is approved and paid for it hits that same delivery system and starts the 12 months.
So, no point in rushing into this, just wait until it's actually released. But, I think I have to anyway, since I'm going with the payment plan.
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Re: When does the 12 months start?
2015/01/16 14:35:19
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WallyG
I usually purchase stuff from Guitar Center or Sweetwater. Is JRRShop in the same league?
I believe you will get sales and tech support from Guitar Center or Sweetwater. JRRShop is legit but I doubt you will get much more than transaction support from them. JRRShop will immediately refer you to Cakewalk for any questions regarding their products.
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