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FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
Hi anyone :-) Does anyone have any ideas on how to set this compressor as a stereo compressor to use on the final mix? Its connected to my audio interface (Focusrite 18i20) ins and outs on channels 3 and 4, using TS 1/4 inch jacks as it doesn't like balanced. I am using Sonar X2 Producer. This is doing my head in, any advice really appreciated. Do I need to use 'External Insert' for the compressor in Sonar and then route it correctly through the 'Scarlett Mix Control' software that came with my Audio Interface? Cheers, Steve  The manual tells you zilch about this and I cant find anything on the web, if anyone knows where to look for advice please point me in the right direction 
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
2015/01/15 18:34:32
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not sure I understand the question... the RNC 1773 is a stereo compressor. If you've connected the outputs of your interface to the compressor, and you are feeding it stereo material then the channels will track.
What am I missing about your question?
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
2015/01/15 20:05:07
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mike_mccue
Page 2 and 3 of the 3 page manual describes how to get started with some suggested settings.
Thanks for reply I have read this and got the leads as described but still doesn't give me any clue how to couple it to my audio interface? In what order e.t.c.
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
2015/01/15 20:14:34
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wst3
not sure I understand the question... the RNC 1773 is a stereo compressor. If you've connected the outputs of your interface to the compressor, and you are feeding it stereo material then the channels will track.
What am I missing about your question?
I still have a pair of these in my rack, they really are very handy!
I have the ins and outs connected to my interface, what I want to do is use it on the final mix. I know this may be a stupid question and the answer will be really simple, but when I add it as an external insert in Sonar X2 Producer it doesn't seem to be affecting the sound at all. Someone mentioned to me that because its a digital signal coming from AI and going into an analogue compressor then out again back to digital this would be wrong. I have no idea if it is or not. They told me I would need to setup the software that came with the AI to route the signal in and out of compressor, then back into AI? Does this sound right to you? Do I insert the external (compressor) insert in the master channel to affect the final mix, do I use a bus or something else? Apologies for being a bit of an idiot with this, but I am completely new with outboard gear! Cheers
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
2015/01/15 20:45:43
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☄ Helpfulby Mitch_I 2015/01/16 12:05:13
AHA!
Now I understand... guess I was being dense!
Connect the outputs of your audio interface (doesn't matter which ones but let's use 3 & 4) to the inputs on the RNC.
Connect the outputs of the RNC to two inputs on your audio interface (again let's use 3 & 4)
Now in your Master Output Bus add an external I/O, it goes in the effects bin.
Double click the external I/O to open the properties page, and choose the appropriate inputs and outputs.
Now play some audio - if you hear audio then you are probably all set, but as a test disconnect the inputs to the RNC. If the audio goes away then you are all set, if it doesn't then you aren't sending audio out the external I/O. I mention this because I have had 'adventures' with external I/O in the past. You probably won't have a problem.
Reconnect the inputs to the RNC and start twisting dials. You will hear the compressor work.
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
2015/01/15 20:48:50
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☄ Helpfulby Mitch_I 2015/01/16 12:04:39
Here's one example of what you can do:
In SONAR set up a Bus you call "master". Send all the tracks and buses in your mix to you "master" bus.
Set the output of your "master" bus to the Focusrites output 3 and 4.
Hook up the RNC so the outputs 3 and 4 go to the RNC left right inputs.
Now, add a stereo track to your project and call it "mixdown". Set the inputs to a pair on the Focusrite. I'm going to pick 5 and 6 arbitraily for this example. Set the outputs of the "mixdown" track to your Focusrites "Monitor Outputs" a.k.a. output 1 and 2. (I'm assuming you are using the Focusrites monitor outputs for your monitoring.)
Hook up the RNC left and right outputs to your Focsurites 5 and 6 inputs.
Hit play and adjust the RNC.
You don't need to worry about any "insert" stuff because that is latency compensation for digital effects and stuff. Your RNC has an analog signal path so everything should be synced just fine.
If you discover that you have a sync issue, it is probably a global issue that has effected every over dub you have been doing... some people notice some people don't.
If you have to trace something like that down you'll want to do a round trip latency and loop back sync test... which is essentially what you are doing with the RNC patch anyway.
That should do it.
Have fun!
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
2015/01/16 16:00:37
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Hi Thank you so much guys for the information, I will try these methods and get back to you with some feedback, much appreciated. Cheers Steve 
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
2015/01/17 10:19:07
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wst3
AHA!
Now I understand... guess I was being dense!
Connect the outputs of your audio interface (doesn't matter which ones but let's use 3 & 4) to the inputs on the RNC.
Connect the outputs of the RNC to two inputs on your audio interface (again let's use 3 & 4)
Now in your Master Output Bus add an external I/O, it goes in the effects bin.
Double click the external I/O to open the properties page, and choose the appropriate inputs and outputs.
Now play some audio - if you hear audio then you are probably all set, but as a test disconnect the inputs to the RNC. If the audio goes away then you are all set, if it doesn't then you aren't sending audio out the external I/O. I mention this because I have had 'adventures' with external I/O in the past. You probably won't have a problem.
Reconnect the inputs to the RNC and start twisting dials. You will hear the compressor work.
If you don't write back and we'll figure it out!
Thanks once again this worked, all help much appreciated Will try the second method and see if there is any difference in sound will let you know!
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
2015/01/19 14:35:37
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This is a timely thread. I almost purchased one of these RNC 1773 Compressor's on eBay this morning. I got beat out in the last seconds.
Steve, what are your impressions of this unit? I am planning on using one innitially on vocals, on the front end of my tracking, just to put a touch of compression on the track on the way in. I may just go new unit and by pass all of the bidding frenzy.
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
2015/01/25 09:41:17
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This is a timely thread. I almost purchased one of these RNC 1773 Compressor's on eBay this morning. I got beat out in the last seconds.
Steve, what are your impressions of this unit? I am planning on using one innitially on vocals, on the front end of my tracking, just to put a touch of compression on the track on the way in. I may just go new unit and by pass all of the bidding frenzy.
Mike, I don't know if you're still looking for an RNC, I have a pair racked up that I use and a third unit that I don't need (long story). If you're interested, PM me.
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Re: FMR RNC 1773 Compressor
2015/07/28 21:23:53
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The RNC 1773 is a really clean and subtle compressor when used sparingly, it may be me but my problem in the beginning was overdoing it when compressing stuff, subtle is the way to go. Great bit of kit and well worth the money.
Apologies for the really late reply on this I have been lost in the world of home recording for a few months and haven't been on here for a while, I really need to use this site more as its a mine of information and there are some really helpful people out there.
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